Bernie Sanders accepted pharma executives'

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502a

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    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ber...ives-donations-prior-pledge/story?id=64390750

    Typical BErnie. Do as I say not as I do
     
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    Maybe it was a really really really altruistic drug company that puts its patients above business every time.

    Typical politician hypocrisy. Frankly it’s ridiculous how much money is wasted on elections. I’d love to see limits put in place or some sort of reform. It’s why I’ll never donate a penny to a political campaign.

    Frankly I’m surprised any significant pharmaceutical company would contribute anything meaningful to Bernie or anyone who wants radical healthcare reform, specifically targeting the corporate infrastructure.
     
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    Bernie should just drop out and back Tulsi. Otherwise, he will be the Ralph Nadar of the progressive movement this election.
     
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    From the article:

     
  5. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    yeah, after he got caught............
     
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    Neither of the two people in question accurately reported their executive-level job titles in the occupation field when they made the donation. One simply said "researcher."
     
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    what is the excuse for post 6?
     
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    Post 6 just links to WaPo's front page. No idea what the excuse is for the poor linking. :)
     
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    Sorry. Seems if you don't have an account it refers you back to the front page. Hate paywalls.
     
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    Nearly all of the current people running for the D nomination owe a debt of gratitude to Bernie for paving the way back in 2015/16, and creating the opening to now where their candidacy and platform goals can exist in the mainstream. And that's even despite the DNC actively working to **** him over in the previous nomination process. Bernie, above all of the other D candidates, deserves to be in the running for this nomination in 2020.
     
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    He’s a sellout
     
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    Oh, I don't disagree that he's a sellout. Watching him succumb to the Clinton machine was incredibly disheartening to witness. That said, he's definitely earned his spot to be competing in this nomination cycle, based purely on the path he was able to forge in the primaries last time.
     
  15. JagdTiger, Jul 19, 2019
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    He is not going to win anyways.
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    Yes no lobbying at all.
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    The minimum should be $23.00 a hour and politicians know this.
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    No democrats will win 2020 election of president.
     
  16. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    And a $23 minimum wage would put many businesses out of business. See what is happening in Seattle and they only went to $15.
     
  17. LordVic macrumors 603

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    if your business is so poorly ran with such a model that the only way to stay afloat is to pay people less than a living wage, than I have no sympathy for that business owner losing their business over abuse of labour.
     
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    This would not be the fast food chains or even Walmart so then a mom and pop store (getting rare) based on their business income would pay less to employees.
     
  19. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    It's not a function of a business being run well or poorly. People aren't going to pay $10-12 for a Big Mac.
     
  20. LordVic macrumors 603

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    They don't have to.

    it's called "Trickle down"... instead of hoarding profits for most companies in the executive, it'll mean paying more and instead of that 10m bonus, a 5m bonus.

    we've seen numerous rate hikes over the years, and they have almost never coincided with massive spikes in either business closures or inflation. YES some businesses, the bubble businesses that operatein the ways we generally consider immoral (abuse of employees time and labour) tend to suffer as their business models are such that their min/maxing of labour for personal wealth bites them in the ass. And there may be a few legit good businesses who might suffer due to poor management decisions or bad luck. But overall, the fear of what oyu claim has been over-stated.

    Ontario just recently went through a hike of min wage from $12 to $14 and none of what you claim has come to pass. the sky hasn't fallen. in fact, Ontario economy has been booming along extremely healthily for a while now. Whatr has actually transpired is that when you give people more pay, they have more disposable incomes. They often spend those disposable incomes on more stuff, thus there is more revenues, and more tax money for state. It's a form of forcing "trickle down" economics. And it's turned out that most businesses can bear those costs.

    heck, even our Ontario Conservative Party couldn't find fault in the raise.
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-minimum-wage-freeze-employment-law-analysis-1.4877043
     

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