Bernie Sanders 'Stunned' by Large Crowd Turnout

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  1. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Spawned off from the Donald Trump for POTUS thread:

    You'll like this, then.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...rs-stunned-by-large-crowds-showing-up-for-him

    I'll say this: on the non-Republican side: If she's up to it, the first person to get Warren as their running made could win it.

    BL.
     
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    I hate his views on the 2nd, but he is better IMHO than any of the rest currently running. got mixed feelings on Rand Paul.
     
  3. Praxis91 macrumors regular

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    Sanders is another statist. He's better than Hillary, but still a statist (esp his views on our 2A rights).

    Anyone that wants to increase the power of the behemoth is an enemy of the Constitution.
     
  4. bradl thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Did you vote for Bush in 2000 and 2004?

    BL.
     
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    http://www.ontheissues.org/house/Bernie_Sanders.htm
    seems better than plenty of others running.
     
  6. Praxis91 macrumors regular

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    No. I'm 3rd party. I will be voting for Rand Paul if he's the R nominee. Otherwise, Libertarian.
     
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    I wasn't surprised that he got large crowds in New England where he's better known, but elsewhere...yeah. There seems to be a large contingent of Americans who have been thirsting for somebody who's a straight talker and not afraid to stand up for the 99%. Hillary is too establishment for many people to believe that she's a genuine liberal, but Sanders...he's the real deal.

    Warren won't run, not even as VP. But if Hillary does win the nomination, I think it might not be a bad idea to have Bernie as her running mate.
     
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    did you vote for Obama?
     
  9. bradl thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Yes. I did. But tell me.. Did Obama expand government? NDAA didn't expand government. TARP? Wasn't his. Auto bailout? See Airline bailout in 2002-2003. PRISM? Started in 2007. Last expansion of government came from DHS, which came about in 2001-2002.

    He doesn't get a pass for continuing those, but those expansions and increases of power came before Obama became POTUS.

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    http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news/economy/obama_government/
     
  11. bradl thread starter macrumors 68040

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    None of those expanded government or gave government more power. Unemployment spending? that started immediately after .com blew up and 9/11.

    "Entitlements" increased government's power? Explain that one.

    Federal employees? 3 letters: TSA. Bush and Tom Ridge get the blame for that.

    Regulations? Your own article stated that less were adopted by Obama than Bush.

    And again, none of this increased the power of government. Perfect examples of increased power: warrantless wiretapping under FISA, creating an entire department under the executive branch, and the aforementioned PRISM.

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    .

    EDIT, while O sucks IMHO I would like to keep the focus on Bernie .I really hope he gets the nod.
     
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    Go get 'em, Bernie.

    I'd love a Bernie -vs- Rand election. Either way, we win.
     
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    Sadly, Bernie is a sub-optimal messenger for a pretty good message.

    ...adding, there are enough checks and balances so that pro-2nd people needn't be too concerned. You can't just executive order away the 2nd.
     
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    "Statist" is just an evacuated term these days used by libertarians to describe "everybody else".

    What particular policies do you disagree with? Why do you think those are bad?
     
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    A real true blue 100% liberal non-establishment type wouldn't be a terrible thing, but the DNC elite would still have their claws in the mix with agenda, and partisanship.

    Between the two I'd have more faith in Rand to tow the party line less.
     
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    As much as I think Sanders has good ideas, he will not be able to get anything done if elected. The districts for the house are gerrymandered so there is no chance of it changing out of republican hands in the near future, so if we want anything done we need someone who can work with them. And that basically means a moderate white male. Sanders has the white male part down, but I think he is too far left for congress to work with him. Admittedly getting nothing done would be an improvement over what a lot of the Republicans want.
     
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    I'll take nothing getting done VS the stupidity we get when both crap houses compromise
     
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    I think his stance on the 2nd is mixed. What makes you think otherwise?

    Sanders is a very interesting candidate. Compared to the other puppets he is a breath of fresh air.
     
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    Vermont is hardcore pro-2nd Amendment. The NRA gave Howard Dean a consistent A+ rating when he was governor. Not sure what Bernie's stance is, but it can't be too anti-2nd.
     
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    Can we get Bernie's and Trump's hair to debate? I'd watch that.
     
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    According to the link in this thread his not anti 2A but the NRA believes otherwise
     
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    I'd love to see a good Socialist as prez. Hasn't happened in almost 150 years .
     
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    He's running for President, not Miss America. These comments about his appearance make you sound like catty teenyboppers.
     

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