Best (AKA Most Stable) way to run windows games on OS X?

Discussion in 'Mac and PC Games' started by morikaweb, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. morikaweb macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    May 22, 2010
    #1
    What is the most stable and fastest way to run windows games in OS X? I own Parralels but it seems to crash constently. I also own Crossover office (used it in my linux days) but have not tried it on mac os yet.

    I'd be willing to buy VM Ware if I needed but what is everyone's opinion?
     
  2. stridemat Moderator

    stridemat

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2008
    Location:
    UK
  3. Hellhammer Moderator

    Hellhammer

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2008
    Location:
    Finland
    #3
    Boot Camp is the only stable way to run games on Mac
     
  4. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
  5. Matthew9559 macrumors 6502a

    Matthew9559

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2007
    Location:
    Cleveland, OH
    #5
    I have a question to tack on, seems appropriate.

    What is the most stable/best Windows OS to use via bootcamp?

    I currently am using Vista but I can buy Windows 7/Windows XP at my college for cheap. Can I run Windows 7 well?

    MBP Specs:
    2.4 GHz C2D
    4 GB Ram
    GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB

    Thanks for any recommendations. Vista runs well for me, I am just curious as to my options.
     
  6. Hellhammer Moderator

    Hellhammer

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2008
    Location:
    Finland
    #6
    I wouldn't even touch any other than Windows 7. XP is okay, but seriously, it's like 10 years old! Vista never caused me anything else but problems so I would avoid it like plague.

    Windows 7 is as light as XP but provides the features of Vista
     
  7. Matthew9559 macrumors 6502a

    Matthew9559

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2007
    Location:
    Cleveland, OH
  8. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    #8
    XP, I've tried Vista and 7 on my computer but I'm sticking with XP until it's totally phased out. It's just fast and light (7, light? No siree. Massive HDD footprint, more ram (that could be used for games!)). I also get much better gaming performance from XP. The last time I balanced them all up (L4D2) I'd get on average 5 more fps than Win 7. It's not faster by a long gap but it's still there. It's also a lot quicker to boot into, which is pretty important to me as a Bootcamper.
     
  9. stridemat Moderator

    stridemat

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2008
    Location:
    UK
    #9
    Depending on the price difference I would go with XP due to it's smaller footprint.
     
  10. morikaweb thread starter macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    May 22, 2010
    #10
    Well boot-camp it is then, I personally use windows 7 x64 ultimate as anything else has problems with modern games.

    But I have a question, I want to tri-boot my system w/ Linux for school, windows for games, and Mac OS for everything else. Is this possible?
     
  11. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    #11
    There are 2 games that won't run on XP (that need DX10). What problems are there on other versions of Windows?
     
  12. stridemat Moderator

    stridemat

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2008
    Location:
    UK
    #12
    You could set up a Virtual Machine for you Linux OS, Bootcamp for Windows and OS X for everything else.
     
  13. Plutonius macrumors 603

    Plutonius

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2003
    Location:
    New Hampshire
  14. Rithem macrumors 6502

    Rithem

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2008
    #14
    Bootcamp is awesome.
     
  15. Rodus macrumors 6502a

    Rodus

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2008
    Location:
    Midlands, UK
    #15
    Bootcamp with XP. There is a fps performance hit with 7 at the moment.
     
  16. roadbloc macrumors G3

    roadbloc

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2009
    Location:
    UK
    #16
    Windows Vista Ultimate in a virtual machine should play solitaire and minesweeper at it's highest settings.
     
  17. Huntn macrumors G5

    Huntn

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Location:
    The Misty Mountains
    #17
    Bootcamp. 7 is the best choice (from what I've read), however, I installed Vista when it was fairly new and honestly I don't know what all the whining in the Windows world was about. Maybe on PCs Vista sucked, but on my Mac it's been operating great for gaming. I mention it because it is cheaper than buying 7, but 7 would be better if you can afford it.
     
  18. mixel macrumors 65816

    mixel

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2006
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    #18
    Win 7 performs beautifully under Bootcamp. Although there aren't many games that REQUIRE DX10 there are loads of games that look nicer with it enabled, so XP is silly IMO. Getting Vista now would be pretty pointless too.

    Bootcamp is great as you can use the Windows partition in Parallels or VMware then anyway.. Some games perform well in a VM if you do it this way - especially if you have loads of RAM.. Then you'd install Linux in a virtual disk and you're sorted. (3D gaming performance probably isnt a priority for your Linux install?)

    Do you have the most recent Parallels? It shouldn't be crashing.. It's rock solid for me. :/

    Its so handy being able to do both native speed + virtualisation on the same Windows install.. Adding mods, games and stuff doesn't require a reboot then - you only need to do it for the actual playing, which can save significant hassle if you use osX for everything else.
     
  19. imassents macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2008
    #19
    Yes it is, but it can take a while to setup. I have a triple boot setup on my Mac of OS X, Win7, and XP, and I cannot see how it wouldn't work with Linux instead of one of the others. I didn't use rEFIt as I didn't need to.

    It was a pain in the neck to setup, but luckily, my computer was brand new at the time and it didn't worry me how many times I needed to erase everything (and I mean everything) and start over just to get it right.

    I didn't use this guide, but it may be what you're after
    http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Triple_Boot_via_BootCamp

    I remember using OS X to setup the partition sizes, and setting two HFS+ partitions and a FAT MS-DOS one. Windows was installed on the FAT partition (formatted to NTFS during install), and then OS X was used to format one of the other HFS+ ones back to FAT for Windows 7 (converted to NTFS). The advantage of this is that the FAT partition is easily identifiable during the installs.

    Provided your Linux boot manger works with Windows 7, selecting Windows in the bootcamp loader will then load your Linux boot loader and let you choose either Windows or Linux.

    I have no idea if this works, but I'd install OS X, then Windows 7 followed by Linux. Perhaps put Windows 7 in the middle partition. That way when you're finished with Linux, you can wipe it and expand the Windows partition over it.
     
  20. doh123 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2009
    #20
    well everyone says "bootcamp" but thats not a valid answer

    the question asks about playing on OSX. Bootcamp lets you install Windows, so it just turns your machine into a Windows machine.

    Basically saying "bootcamp" is just like saying "Use a PC not a Mac"

    to actually get a valid answer to the question... there is no 1 best way to run Windows games on OSX... it really depends on the game itself. Running Windows in a virtual machine is usually the poorest performance. Wine is usually the best way to go, wether is done on your own, or using Wineskin, or Crossover or whatever. There are also hack wrapper versions of Crossover out there (mainly CXZ), and of course using Cider out of other games...

    Any of them can be best for a certain game, but bad for others.

    but like everyone else has said, if you want to be able to play a Windows game easily, with the best performance, then just run Windows (for real, not virtualized)...
     
  21. roadbloc macrumors G3

    roadbloc

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2009
    Location:
    UK
    #21
    Whoa! You've just summed it up perfectly there.
     
  22. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    #22
    It's silly to call better performance silly ;).
    http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/information/windows-xp-vs-vista-vs-7/

    Also worth noting is that there are 2 games that need DX10 to run, there are also many many more games that won't run on Windows Vista or 7. So at the moment XP is still the most compatible system.
     
  23. mixel macrumors 65816

    mixel

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2006
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    #23
    A quick google shows equal (or more) benchmark and gaming sites recommending the upgrade to 7 from XP.

    Many many games - like what? I have well over 100 games and they all run perfectly in Win7-64.. The performance difference you're mentioning really isn't noticeable, and some games run faster in 7 anyway.

    What IS noticeable is DX10 mode making a lot of games look better with no significant performance hit. Win7 boots faster. Win7 feels more responsive. Win7 is more secure, etc. XP is showing it's age, as it should be!
     
  24. aiqw9182 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    #24
    If you want to play Windows games without Windows then your best option is Crossover Games or WINE/Cider emulation in general.
     

Share This Page