I know I could call but they never come to the dam phone. I waited one hour before. Last time I went to go try the pen it got damaged by someone and they were waiting for a new one to come in for demo. Is there anyway to find out before going online? --- Post Merged, Jun 23, 2017 --- Oh yeah we don't have a Apple Store near by otherwise I would just go there. --- Post Merged, Jun 23, 2017 --- The other thing I haven't gone to Best Buy yet to compare the 10.5 to 12.9 but have until July 1 to get a credit toward another iPad. I just wanted to make sure the Best Buy I go to near by has the keyboard and pen to try too before I go.