Best cost saving effort by a republican today, Jason Chaffetz not running in 2018

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/us/politics/jason-chaffetz-congress-utah-house-oversight.html

WASHINGTON — Representative Jason Chaffetz, the powerful chairman of the House oversight committee, told supporters on Wednesday that he would not seek re-election to Congress — or run for any office — in 2018.

Mr. Chaffetz, 50, a Utah Republican who relished his oversight role more under a Democratic administration, said he was ready to return to the private sector after more than 13 years in public service, calling his decision a “personal” one.

“I have long advocated public service should be for a limited time and not a lifetime or full career,” he said in a statement posted on Facebook. “After more than 1,500 nights away from my home, it is time.”

He said his decision was not based on health or political concerns, adding that he was “confident” of his re-election should he have pursued it and retained support from Speaker Paul D. Ryan for his committee chairmanship.

More than 18 months out from the election in the heavily Republican district, there were already possible signs of a challenging race in Mr. Chaffetz’s future. Kathryn Allen, a physician and political newcomer running as a Democrat, has raised nearly $400,000 more than Mr. Chaffetz this year, The Salt Lake Tribune reported Sunday — most of it from donors outside Utah. And Mr. Chaffetz had also acquired a primary challenger: Damian W. Kidd, a lawyer and another newcomer who accused the congressman of caring more about himself than his district.

Last year, Mr. Chaffetz publicly weighed running for governor of Utah in 2020, when his committee chairmanship would expire.

He did not rule out that possibility Wednesday during an interview with KSL Newsradio in Utah, telling host Doug Wright that he “maybe” would run for governor.

Even Mr. Chaffetz’s announcement left open the possibility of his return.

“I may run again for public office,” he said, “but not in 2018.”

On Capitol Hill, Mr. Chaffetz has shown an opportunistic streak, often rushing toward television cameras with an eager smile. During the election, he vacillated several times before backing President Trump. He said he would not be able to look his teenage daughter in the eye should he vote for Mr. Trump after revelations arose that Mr. Trump had boasted in 2005 of sexually assaulting women. Then he voted for him. And he vowed to investigate Hillary Clinton whether she won or not.

With a ready foil in Mrs. Clinton, whose brushes with controversy have sustained many Republican congressional careers, Mr. Chaffetz appeared primed to emerge as a chief tormentor for a new Democratic White House.

Instead, as much as perhaps any member of Congress, his fortunes turned with Mr. Trump’s victory.
This hypocrite has burned thru more taxpayer money on politically motivated investigations ( and has more on the way http://www.sltrib.com/home/4885163-155/story.html ), couldn't have happened soon enough.
 

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They are welcome to have an oversight role, but when you have multiple investigations into the same incident that all turn up nothing, and your investigations only focus on the opposite party it looks suspiciously like political motivation.
Except that the reason those investigations "turned up nothing" is the unlawful stonewalling, slow-rolling, and destruction of evidence by the agencies and persons Chaffetz was investigating, you might be on to something.
 

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Except that the reason those investigations "turned up nothing" is the unlawful stonewalling, slow-rolling, and destruction of evidence by the agencies and persons Chaffetz was investigating, you might be on to something.
Keep telling yourself that, while the rest of the world ignores those conspiracy theories and accepts the reality that nothing was found because there was nothing to find.
 

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Oversight is a necessary thing.

House Republicans are spending $8,000 a day investigating Benghazi. The State Department has spent $14 million on answering requests from Republicans that are related to the Benghazi investigations. The current House Select Committee on Benghazi has spent $6.5 million. The result of all the Republican spending binge has been that no evidence of wrongdoing has been found.

Republicans hoped to use their congressional majority’s investigative power to take down Hillary Clinton in 2016, but they have accomplished nothing but waste time and money. The media is selling voters the distraction that is the Trump presidential campaign circus while ignoring the partisan waste of tens of millions of dollars by Republicans in Congress.
Congressional Republicans have faced angry constituents in recent weeks for their lack of interest in Russian hacking and President Donald Trump’s conflict of interests. Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz has encountered the most intense heat, as the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform appears to be mostly indifferent to the president.

Earlier this month, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer hammered Chaffetz for his apparent apathy in serving as a check on the country’s executive branch. Blitzer may have spoken too soon, however. On Tuesday, The Salt Lake Tribune reported that the House Oversight Committee will indeed launch a probe on the federal government by looking into a harmless tweet sent by the official Twitter account of Bryce Canyon National Park.
Politically motivated investigations are another thing.

After years of repeated Republican conspiracy theories that Secretary Hillary Clinton or others ordered the U.S. military to stand down in Benghazi or otherwise prevented a military response that could have saved American lives, Rep. Trey Gowdy, the Chairman of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, finally conceded in an interview on FOX News that the military could not have gotten to Benghazi in time to save the lives of the four Americans killed that night:

“Whether or not they could have gotten there in time, I don’t think there is any issue with respect to that — they couldn’t.”
After much bluster and obfuscation, Rep Trey Gowdy admits he altered the documentsthat he used to make false claims against Hillary Clinton in a response to a letter from Rep Elijah Cummings.
Except that the reason those investigations "turned up nothing" is the unlawful stonewalling, slow-rolling, and destruction of evidence by the agencies and persons Chaffetz was investigating, you might be on to something.
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A second congressman admitted on Wednesday that the Republican House committee created to investigate the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, is solely “designed to go after” Hillary Clinton.

“This may not be politically correct, but I think that there was a big part of this investigation that was designed to go after people and an individual, Hillary Clinton,” Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) said on WIBX First News with Keeler in the Morning, a radio show in upstate New York.

Republicans say they formed the House Select Committee on Benghazi to investigate the attack. Democrats have complained that the committee, which has cost taxpayers about $4.5 million during its 17 months of existence, was primarily a political stunt.

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) last month let it slip that the committee aimed to sink Clinton’s poll numbers. His gaffe reverberated across Capitol Hill and was a major factor in McCarthy’s abrupt decision to drop out of the race to replace outgoing House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).
 

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Eh...I'm sure there will be someone else to waste money there. There always is. And certainly Trump is doing his part with his frequent trips to Florida.
The complaining about Trump's trips to Florida is getting old. It's faux outrage -- nobody really cares, especially since most members of Congress do the same thing... their travel back to their districts is paid for by the taxpayers, in addition to other benefits like franking privileges (use of the US mail) and staff. The new darling of the left Maxine Waters (D-CA) unapologetically flies home to her district EVERY WEEKEND. That's a 6000 mile round trip on the taxpayer dime. If you want to be outraged, where's your outrage about that?
 
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The complaining about Trump's trips to Florida is getting old. It's faux outrage -- nobody really cares, especially since most members of Congress do the same thing... their travel back to their districts is paid for by the taxpayers, in addition to other benefits like franking privileges (use of the US mail) and staff. The new darling of the left Maxine Waters (D-CA) unapologetically flies home to her district EVERY WEEKEND. That's a 6000 mile round trip on the taxpayer dime. If you want to be outraged, where's your outrage about that?
Members of congress have to fly back to their district. Trump PROMISED while campaigning that he would never see his golf courses again. He's there every weekend. Its not faux outrage at all. It's just another example of how trump lies all the time.
 

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Members of congress have to fly back to their district. Trump PROMISED while campaigning that he would never see his golf courses again. He's there every weekend. Its not faux outrage at all. It's just another example of how trump lies all the time.
First, that's not what he said. He never said he was swearing off golf. He said he would use golf as a way to do business:

If he ever did play golf, Trump promised, he wouldn't just play with his buddies like Obama did, but rather use the golf course as a sort of outdoor board room -- playing with foreign leaders, members of Congress and the like to convince them about something or other related to the running of the country.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/politics/trump-golf-obama/

Many people in executive positions play golf with clients, colleagues, and customers. I do so myself. It's an age-old way of establishing personal relationships with these people to strengthen your business and get things done on a personal level. I'm not surprised a lot of millennials and other tech types don't know this since all they do is online meetings these days.... :rolleyes:

Second, the whole outrage of Trump's trips to Florida have always centered around costs. Certainly MadeTheSwitch has been saying so since Trump was inaugurated. But my point is that many members of government have their trips paid for by the taxpayer. Trump is no different. Why no outrage at Maxine Waters for flying 6000 miles every weekend at taxpayer expense? If Waters wants to do her congressional business in LA, fine with me. If Trump wants to do his presidential business at Mar-a-Lago in Florida, that's fine too. My point is that if you are going to be outraged at Trump going to Florida at taxpayer expense, you should also be outraged at your congressman going home at taxpayer expense. Frankly, I'm not outraged at either.

On a lighter note, what I want to know is what the staff at Camp David are doing? They probably feel left out, or like the Maytag Repair Man. :D
 
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First, that's not what he said. He never said he was swearing off golf. He said he would use golf as a way to do business:



http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/politics/trump-golf-obama/

Many people in executive positions play golf with clients, colleagues, and customers. I do so myself. It's an age-old way of establishing personal relationships with these people to strengthen your business and get things done on a personal level. I'm not surprised a lot of millennials and other tech types don't know this since all they do is online meetings these days.... :rolleyes:

Second, the whole outrage of Trump's trips to Florida have always centered around costs. Certainly MadeTheSwitch has been saying so since Trump was inaugurated. But my point is that many members of government have their trips paid for by the taxpayer. Trump is no different. Why no outrage at Maxine Waters for flying 6000 miles every weekend at taxpayer expense? If Waters wants to do her congressional business in LA, fine with me. If Trump wants to do his presidential business at Mar-a-Lago in Florida, that's fine too. My point is that if you are going to be outraged at Trump going to Florida at taxpayer expense, you should also be outraged at your congressman going home at taxpayer expense. Frankly, I'm not outraged at either.

On a lighter note, what I want to know is what the staff at Camp David are doing? They probably feel left out, or like the Maytag Repair Man. :D
https://mic.com/articles/172212/trump-once-said-he-would-never-see-his-golf-courses-again-if-he-were-elected-president#.xpbJb0r2W

The video of 45 saying he wouldn't see his golf courses is embedded there.

The point about Waters is she is traveling back home, and supposedly seeing constituents. She's flying on taxpayers dime, to see taxpayers. Now if you can show the reports of her doing golfing on those weekends ( which I suppose I could also claim 'she's doing business' ), then maybe you'd have something. The outrage with 45 though is literally based on his own words, no one else.
 
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https://mic.com/articles/172212/trump-once-said-he-would-never-see-his-golf-courses-again-if-he-were-elected-president#.xpbJb0r2W

The video of 45 saying he wouldn't see his golf courses is embedded there.

The point about Waters is she is traveling back home, and supposedly seeing constituents. She's flying on taxpayers dime, to see taxpayers. Now if you can show the reports of her doing golfing on those weekends ( which I suppose I could also claim 'she's doing business' ), then maybe you'd have something. The outrage with 45 though is literally based on his own words, no one else.
You and others take unimportant things like this too literally and too seriously. I suggest you take a step back else you're going to have a breakdown soon, especially if Kennedy retires from SCOTUS as it is rumored he will.

I'm not going to parse the video but I don't think it says what you think it says about Trump and golf. Look, Trump flies down to Florida to conduct business and meet with people (including taxpayers!) in an environment that he's comfortable in. Waters flies back to South Central LA so she can meet with her homies in da hood. Taxpayers pay for both trips. Fine, whatever....
 
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The complaining about Trump's trips to Florida is getting old. It's faux outrage -- nobody really cares, especially since most members of Congress do the same thing... their travel back to their districts is paid for by the taxpayers, in addition to other benefits like franking privileges (use of the US mail) and staff. The new darling of the left Maxine Waters (D-CA) unapologetically flies home to her district EVERY WEEKEND. That's a 6000 mile round trip on the taxpayer dime. If you want to be outraged, where's your outrage about that?
Members of Congress work for their constituents. Hence, they need to go back to their districts. They never said they'd not leave DC because their was so much work to be done. They may fly on the taxpayer's dime, but they fly commercial, without the travelling circus. And their flying back home does not involve costs for their destination and loss of revenue for businesses at their destination.
They also don't use those trips to bill taxpayers for the use of their own facilities.
 

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You and others take unimportant things like this too literally and too seriously. I suggest you take a step back else you're going to have a breakdown soon, especially if Kennedy retires from SCOTUS as it is rumored he will.

I'm not going to parse the video but I don't think it says what you think it says about Trump and golf. Look, Trump flies down to Florida to conduct business and meet with people (including taxpayers!) in an environment that he's comfortable in. Waters flies back to South Central LA so she can meet with her homies in da hood. Taxpayers pay for both trips. Fine, whatever....

Got it! 46 seconds of 45 saying what you said he didn't say is to much for you. Noted, and will keep that in consideration for any future points made by you.
 
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It's all hypocrisy anyway. If it was the other way around they'd be calling for Hillary's head on a platter.
 

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Got it! 46 seconds of 45 saying what you said he didn't say is to much for you. Noted, and will keep that in consideration for any future points made by you.
Nice try, but again, that's not saying what you think it's saying or what you want it to say. So your spin, comprehension, and comments are noted as mitigating factors on the credibility of your postings.

Bottom line is that sane people don't care about this, it's just fodder for unhinged liberals. But do keep posting about it, your posts make great comedy.
 
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Nice try, but again, that's not saying what you think it's saying or what you want it to say. So your spin, comprehension, and comments are noted as mitigating factors on the credibility of your postings.

Bottom line is that you don't care about this, it's just fodder for anyone not drinking the kool aid. But do keep posting about it, your posts make great comedy.
 
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Bottom line is that sane people don't care about this, it's just fodder for unhinged liberals.
So tell me, is Joni Ernst unhinged or a liberal when she says this:

“I have not spoken to him about the Florida issue yet, but that is something I think has been bothering not just me, but I think other members of our caucus,” Ernst said. “So I think that is going to be a conversation that we have when we get back to Washington D.C.”
Ernst criticizes Trump's Mar-a-Lago visits
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/19/ernst-criticizes-trumps-mar-lago-visits.html

I look forward to your reply.
 

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False equivalence. Ernst is not making out like the unhinged liberals, screaming and yelling about travel costs, calling for impeachment, etc.

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Who said anything about impeachment? Now you are moving the goalpost in yet another desperate attempt to avoid confronting this issue. You can't claim that this is an issue that only liberals care about when I provide direct evidence to the contrary.

So again, was Ernst unhinged, insane, or a liberal?

Also, about that sane thing, I take great issue with that as per your own postings referring to my words on this subject, you know that I care about this issue a great deal. So basically you are calling me insane for caring about the amount of money that this president is wasting on his near weekly golf trips to Florida.

I have a problem with that on several levels. First, the personal attack lobbed my direction, but secondly, the notion that trying to contain cost is all of a sudden now something insane. That's funny, because Republicans have been screaming about containing cost for decades. Of course they don't actually do it when in power as Trump himself illustrates so well.
 
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"Politically motivated investigations" — ridiculous. Should Congress have no oversight role at all?
Chaffetz is one of those team win at any cost sleaze bags, good riddance.

Maybe you missed the point, political connotates politics, for political advantage among other things to slander and prevent the election of a candidate for President, (yay, your side won, but oops Trump took it) not serious neutral investigations. How much money do you approve of being wasted so your side can win, unlimited?
 

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I'm not going to parse the video but I don't think it says what you think it says about Trump and golf. Look, Trump flies down to Florida to conduct business and meet with people (including taxpayers!) in an environment that he's comfortable in. Waters flies back to South Central LA so she can meet with her homies in da hood. Taxpayers pay for both trips. Fine, whatever....
What....what in god's name is wrong with you? That's just vile beyond the pale.