Best Monitor for Graphic Design

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by stoid, Oct 6, 2005.

  1. stoid macrumors 601


    Feb 17, 2002
    So long, and thanks for all the fish!
    I'm thinking of getting a nice computer monitor for graphic design to use with my 15inch PowerBook when I'm at the desk. While the Apple monitors are nice, I recall that LCDs are (were?) not as color accurate as a quality CRT.

    What options do I have, and what would be the best monitor CRT or LCD for doing graphic design.
  2. VanMac macrumors 6502a


    May 26, 2005
    Rampaging Tokyo
    I had thought that the color calibration with the ACDs was quite good.

    Issues with the dell though.....
  3. stoid thread starter macrumors 601


    Feb 17, 2002
    So long, and thanks for all the fish!
    So an Apple LCD would be color accurate enough to do relatively exact color matching? Obviously there's gamut differences between any RGB monitor and a CYMK printout and that's why we use the PANTONE or similar system, I'm just wondering if I'm going to be spending over $1300 (I'd go Apple 23") on a monitor, if I wouldn't be better of using that money instead to get a top of the line CRT instead.

    Unfortunately, I just don't know what to look for in a monitor.
  4. Bear macrumors G3

    Jul 23, 2002
    Sol III - Terra
    The Apple HD Cinema Displays are just fine for photowork and colormatching. You just need to calibrate the screen. I would recommend the Spyder2 or similar for calibrating your displays. (The 20" non-HD LCD may be just as good, however, the brightness specification is lower.)
  5. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    A Dell LCD would be just as good as an Apple one after calibration, but it's not like you need to get an LCD to be with the cool kids.

    Just get a great CRT. Otherwise, get a Dell and calibrate it very accurately. I think a lot of calibration is based on personal judgement, which isn't the best thing, but I guess you can do it accurately enough.
  6. MrSugar macrumors 6502a


    Jul 28, 2003

    this is not entirely true, I use dual 23" apple displays and they are not good at color matching. In fact, if you look on apple support forums you will see floods of posts talking about how the previous generation of Apple monitors were a lot more color stable than the current one.

    That said, the main problems lie with the 23" displays, as far as I know the 30 and 20 inchers are okay... although if I were you I would test them out first and be damn certain for the amount of money you are going to spend.
  7. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004
    Top-line CRT all the way unless space is a factor.

    Barco, Lacie etc... use a hood, have a neutrally-coloured workspace, get a calibrator...

    Mitsubishi also make some excellent monitors at a reasonable price.
  8. iGary Guest


    May 26, 2004
    Randy's House
    What she said. ;)
  9. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    I second that- they may not be cool, but get a CRT. Your work and clients will thank you.
  10. emw macrumors G4


    Aug 2, 2004
    Says the man who works on an LCD ;)

    CRT vs. LCD is worse than Mac vs. PC or Red Sox vs. Yankees, I think. They both have pros and cons that you need to consider.

    CRTs, while generally less expensive and having a much better black point, tend to be (obviously) bulkier, more prone to calibration issues related to movement and/or placement, and are not as bright or consistent over time.

    LCDs, while having nice brightness levels and a smaller footprint, tend to still have issues with color variation within the display and can't give as good of a deep black.

    We've done some significant testing on the Apple ACDs and have found the 30" to be the most consistent, strangely enough, in terms of overall color consistency, measuring a variance of ±50-100K across the monitor, which is pretty much measurement device noise.

    Another choice are the Eizo monitors, but they're significantly more expensive.

    The hard part with any of this is finding the appropriate calibration targets. Most applications allow you to choose only white point, vs. use CIE xy coordinates. There are many xy coordinates that will map to a given white point, and the variations in apparent color of that white point can be fairly significant.

    There's a lot more to getting good, consistent, calibration than simply hooking up an OptixXR device and running a calibration.
  11. Mac_Freak macrumors 6502a

    Apr 22, 2005
    Here is a guy who just upgraded from 2x 20" ACDs to one 30" ACD :D

    BTW, what did you do with those 20" displays iGary?

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