Betrayed by their party, Republicans voted Trump. But will he betray them too?

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  1. thermodynamic Suspended

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    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ed-conservatives-and-so-too-will-donald-trump


    Article has more, but please prove the writer of that piece as being wrong in his assertions presented in that article, as I will not cut'n'paste them all.
     
  2. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Of course he will. Trump has flipped flopped on his positions during the primary season. Why wouldn't he in office? It seems to be one of the things he does best.
     
  3. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    Much of the anger is cause people don't know the political process and politics in USA.

    All they want to hear is 2 second sound bites and something happen.
    They don't have the time, let alone ability to learn how it all works, in their busy lives.
     
  4. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    But that only sets up endless disappointment and anger over unrealistic expectations.
     
  5. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    He will, but he can't be any more of a disappointment than the current GOP Congress.
     
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    Obama failed at plenty of things that he had promised, did any liberal say he betrayed them?
     
  7. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    Pretty sure many on the far left are disappointed in him.
     
  8. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    Where was some calls from the Black communities IIRC, first term era
     
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    Sure. Absolutely some say that. But by and large Obama filled a lot more promises than other Presidents I can recall over my lifetime. And that was with an obstructionist congress even.
     
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    Perhaps Obama should have said 'Provided the Republican-dominated Congress doesn't act like a group of petulant children with anger issues, I can do X'.
     
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    well, let's elect Trump to see what's in him, you can point out the betrayals when he leaves after 8 years :D
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    same Obama who had control of BOTH houses for 2 years?
     
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    You have made quite clear to me that you hate Trump, although you seem rather fair weathered and turn on a dime so maybe his speech last night convinced you?

    I am sure it has probably been explained to you multiple times that Obama did not have control of congress in some sort of veto/fillabuster proof fashion for two years. Al Franken was not seated until the summer and Kennedy was out due to health issues.
     
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    1. yet to watch it.
    2. did they even try? was ANYTHING they proposed filibustered?
     
  14. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    But somehow Bill Clinton managed quite well with a Republican Congress and that horrible Newt Gingrich.

    And remind me again how many GOP House passed bills Harry Reid allowed to come up for a vote? Actually this is a problem not related entirely to Harry Reid and that is one person should not be able to stop legislation passed by the other house. I think if one house passes it, then it should be required to have a vote in the other. Maybe not discussion, but a vote.

    And I also think Mitch McConnell should have allowed hearings and a vote on Obama's SCOTUS pick. I would have hoped he was voted down, but he should have gotten a hearing and a vote.
     
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    Two Caucasian men...
     
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    Wouldn't democrats and hillary supports be happy in that case?
     
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    He wasn't to the left enough.
     
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    The problem is likely Trump will be a figurehead and let Pence run everything like he offered to let Kasich do, and in that case we might as well have elected Ted Cruz. Personally Cruz was the only one that I hated more than Trump.
     
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    Pence is his impeachment insurance in the unlikely event he gets elected.
     
  20. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    Trump is smarter than Hillary looks :D
     
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    Oh boy!
     
  22. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    No. Pence is his scapegoat fallguy should he lose. Trump can never ever accept blame for anything. Thus he needs the insurance of having someone else to blame should things go south for him. He's already joked about it. There's usually truth in humor and I don't believe it was just a joke.
     
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    See? You have nothing to fear since trump won't be ***** anything :D
     
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    Yeah but I am no fan of Pence's anti-gay policies either. And Trump would still be a figurehead if he won saying all sorts of crap....who knows what trouble his mouth and 140 characters would get us into.

    And again, I just don't want children picking up Trumpisms and stark mocking disabled people and think it's good to punch people in the face. It's just such a negative thing. I can't imagine any parent would actually want their children to behave like a bully and mock disabled people.
     
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    The ko game started long before trump. And most of today's kids are freaking morons
     

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