Big Bang controversy grows:

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  1. tshrimp macrumors 6502

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    I found this by accident but found it interesting. I am not familiar with this publication, so take it as you will.


    Big Bang controversy grows:

    I am sure it it doesn't support some peoples belief it will be a publication that is too conservative or too liberal :)
     
  2. chabig macrumors 68040

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    I wouldn't call it a controversy. I'd just say it's science.
     
  3. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Exactly.

    What it doesn't lead to is the answer that God kept it from collapsing.
     
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    But He may have, through independently verifiable, physically sound methods. Therefore, the discovery neither proves nor disproves the existance of a God.

    Oooohhhh.
     
  5. chabig macrumors 68040

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    Of course this has nothing to do with a God. The article discusses a possible error in a scientific theory. That's how science works--theories change (or at least get re-examined) when new, verifiable data points to an error.
     
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    Yeah, I know. I'm just being pedantic for Zen's sake here.
     
  7. bradl macrumors 68040

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    For all we know, the Big Bang could have been caused by some really bad flatulence brought on by $DEITY eating a bad burrito from Loki's East Side Taco Shack, on the corner of Regulus and Pollux.

    BL.
     
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    Technically the Big Bang Theory is a controversy because it is a matter of opinion that large number of people have sided with (by definition).
     
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    WRONG! There wasn't a Regulus and Pollux before the Big Bang!

    ...but the burritos are still a possibility.
     
  10. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    If I'm not mistaken, they're getting ready to fire up CERN for the next round of collisions in a month or so. That ought to provide some information on this matter.
     
  11. chabig macrumors 68040

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    The theory isn't controversial. People's opinion on the theory is controversial.
     
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    Haha well of course. Nothing is controversial on its own.
     
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    The authors of the paper admit they may have made a crucial mistake. So what's the relevance at this point?

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    The theory is controversial because people vigorously disagree on how or whether it happened. The most disturbing big bang universe to me would be one where it ends in a steady state heat-death. That would mean it all occurred only once, so what set it off?

    I'm much more comfortable with a big bang universe that ends in big crunch, thus resulting in another bang cycle. While that still had to have a start at some point, it's being argued that the cycles may extend with and against the arrow of time, so the loop would not have a start or end point--it just always has been.
     
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    The Daily Mail, aka, the Daily Fail, is the UK's version of the National Enquirer. It's a tabloid. Brits don't take it seriously, and neither should any one else.
     
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    So the Mexicans (Aztec) were right?
     
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    Big bang, pshaw.

    It's time to accept that the "universe" in which we live is actually a computer simulation.
     
  17. thekev macrumors 604

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    That's not the problem with the Daily Mail. It's not that it's overly conservative in its interpretation. They often have egregious errors in fact checking and poor reporting. It's just not a very good source of information.
     
  18. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    I think the controversy is that someone is sitting in Sheldon SPOT.:p
     
  19. tshrimp thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Greatness :)

    I did find this same information elsewhere when I Googled it. So those who don't like the original site mentioned, and are interested, can find this information on sites that might be more to your liking.
     
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    Wasn't there a recent test to determine if we are or aren't part of a computer simulation?

    I personally love the philosophical theory that we're all the figment of one person's imagination.
     
  21. bradl macrumors 68040

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    This reminds me of that final scene in Men in Black and Men in Black 2, where in the first Men In Black, our entire universe is just a spark on a marble that is being knocked into another marble by some alien on another planet/universe.

    Or better yet.. could we truly be living in the Matrix?

    BL.
     
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    Actually, that little old lady had it right and it's still turtles all the way down. Carnegie Institute of Sciece - Everyday Cosmology
     
  23. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    While all these theories are interesting, we don't know, and will never know what happened at the dawn of creation.

    Getting too invested in any of these theories is really just wasted energy. You're going to die with a vague notion of what happened in the beginning, and that's that.

    Not saying it doesn't perk my ears up when new scientific theories are presented, but really, I'm not going to get my heart rate up over it.

    I much prefer tangible things like flying probes on to comets. Now that's pretty cool science there.
     
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    I seriously doubt anyone in the actual science community is getting their heart rate up over this. As was pointed out before, Daily Mail is a tabloid. It's their job to make up sensational headlines. (not that the regular news sources are much better these days)
     
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    I agree.
    It's a really boring, dry and mental subject.

    Once I was actually on my way to become a physicist, but completely changed my majors after 4 semesters. Damn, that stuff was boring.
     

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