Bill gates demand rich people in USA gives away 50% of their wealth

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  1. henrikrox macrumors 65816

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    While I don't like a lot of things Microsoft has done, I do really admire Bill Gates. He's an amazing philanthropist and a very generous person. Steve Jobs on the other hand does not do much (if any) charity.
     
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    hmmm

    Gates- Genius, as well as an all-around super guy. It's a shame I can't stand to use his operating systems any more :p

    As for Jobs, I have read a few of the articles comparing his "giving" to Jobs'. I think I determined that Gates are all made publicly, and Jobs' are not public. I don't know how much he actually gives, I imagine it's much less regardless.

    Gates has it right on though. The wealthiest citizen's should help out the less wealthy by donating to charities. The government should not force them to do so though.

    Who would have thought that a private citizen is capable of donating to charity without the strong arm of the government forcing them to do so against their will :confused:
     
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    Most of his wealth comes from either stealing other people's work or making people miserable with Windows, so he's trying to make up for it.
     
  5. ethical macrumors 68000

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    Bill Gates' full-time job now is giving his money away. I think that's very admirable.
     
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    And profitable (considering the interest his money must make).
     
  7. Ttownbeast macrumors 65816

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    4.5 billion dollars is very hard to just give away for a single individual sure governments could give away that amount in a matter of a day but trying to figure out where to dump that kind of cash as an individual would be kind of daunting.
     
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    Not as profitable as working for Microsoft though. But I guess when you've made that much money there simply isn't any point making more... it won't make a difference to your standard of living.
     
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    But working for Microsoft would make a difference for how much you could be making, thus how much he could be donating. So Bill's good, but he's not as great as he could be. :rolleyes:









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    So, what's the price to a ticket to Heaven these days? :rolleyes:

    I'm far more impressed—and likely to believe the motivation—with someone that gives 1% of their wealth and never says a word about it than someone giving away half and won't shut up about it.
     
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    But then he wouldn't have enough time to donate his money....AHHH VICIOUS CIRCLE!! :p
     
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    Just to get this straight- you are against raising awareness about various issues that adversely affect people? Gates usually doesn't frame his donations as "I'm so rich and I deserve tons of PR points for donating money to this cause."
     
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    It is this kind of creeping Socialism that is killing the America we love and cherish.
     
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    I neither said nor implied any such thing. You're assigning a meaning to my words that simply isn't there under any reasonable interpretation.

    Simply publicizing (or having his PR flacks do it for him) the size of it all in the way that has been done from the beginning is enough to give me reason to find him a self-aggrandizing asswipe. Most of the coverage of his "charitable work" is about its vastness and value—and now what others should do, According To Bill—and less about the actual issues being dealt with.

    Gates is no genius nor philanthropist, certainly not any more than the oil and railroad robber barons of the late 19th and early 20th centuries that tried mightily to rehabilitate their standing in later years. SS, DD.
     
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    It's certainly reasonable, given your statement. You perceive publicity as self-aggrandizement instead of considering the benefits of such exposure.

    Mostly because donations of that magnitude are more or less unprecedented, and certainly uncommon for an individual.

    Details don't make for good news items. If you pay attention and read the stuff that doesn't make the news, you might be pleasantly surprised.

    Maybe not a genius, but certainly a philanthropist. You're just letting your personal feelings about the guy affect your perception of his philanthropy.

    And besides, isn't actually donating money to a cause better than a "race for the cure" or another similarily pointless gesture?

    Oh, BTW: A good number of the projects their working on involve government partnership. I believe in that scenario any organization giving a grant (from a private trust to a public venture) must disclose the amount by law. The exact statute escapes me at the moment.
     
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    I think you are wrong.

    Let Bill Gates give away his entire fortune! Good for him, I am glad he wants to help people. He can do whatever the heck he wants to do, he could send his money to the center of the earth for all I care.

    But the moment he starts lobbying congress to pass legislation requiring his rich buddies to do the same, then we can start worrying.

    If you pay any attention to Hillary Clinton though, you are probably already worried :p
     
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    Well done Messrs. Gates and Buffett, more power to your collective elbows.


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    Let's just stay I'm a student of the broader range of human history and behavior. What Gates is doing or having done in his name has nothing to do with belief, but image. It's easy with that kind of money. What he's done and is doing is nothing unique, only the scope.

    I'd like to see him actually sacrifice something.

    Cynical? Sure, but that's because I'm not rich and I've been in the world—and I do mean world—getting my hands dirty doing something for the better part of my half-century plus. Bill's just made a buttload of money as one of the most unethical businesspersons in the last century, and thinks that giving it all away will make him a better person. You know, maybe $50B worth of rebates to those of us that financed his escapades would be a better start. At least we could decide for ourselves what part of our communities could use it. I don't need his input.

    Just like Bing. I don't need a Decision Engine, I was equipped with one from birth.

    EDIT: Oops, just noticed this got sent to PRSI. I'm outta here before my IQ drops 20 points.
     
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    Of all the things I feel taken advantage of by courtesy of the corporate world, a $100 OS license is not one of them. His giving, coupled with the fact that he does not intend to leave huge fortunes to his kids, shows to me that the man genuinely cares. You can call it horn-blowing, but he never speaks out without attaching a cause to it. He has brought a lot of issues to light and he's supporting some fledgling technologies to make our world better. I'd rather appear self-important in my charity than not give at all.
     
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    When the sheer amount and total % of a fortune such as what Gates has devoted to charity is so massive, you can only consider him one of the greatest humanitarians of modern times.

    Certainly, there have been those with voices louder, but the effect that Gate's money will have is outstanding.

    I think I'm approaching a change in my ideology recently, it's a trend - that I really appreciate people who achieve and get things done, and are not just armchair idealists.

    Too many talkers, but guys, like Gates - he's giving people what they need - cash. This 50% of your wealth scheme is fantastic!
     
  21. Queso macrumors G4

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    Good for Gates, but to those who compare his largesse with Jobs apparent meanness remember that Bill has finished what he set out to do. Jobs still has a desire to achieve an unspecified goal, and for that he feels he needs his money. Once he has reached whatever he is wanting he may too decide that he has amassed too much and start giving it away.

    The plan for the super-rich to give back is extremely honourable. I hope more follow the Gates and Buffett examples.
     
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    No thats going to be the tax hikes we are going to see in the coming months.
     
  23. Queso macrumors G4

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    Why don't they just tax the super-rich at 50%? That ought to keep both Barack and Bill happy :)
     
  24. AP_piano295 macrumors 65816

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    What makes Bill one of the most un-ethical business men of the last two decades?
     
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    Because you can't support 95% of a nation on the backs of 5%. The main problem is that government has become so abstracted and so top heavy towards the federal side that people aren't able to see their money going from point a to point b.
     

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