agreed. couldn't have put it better myselfjimsowden said:I'm textless. What is this guy's deal? So many inept arguments, and he seems to have no comprehension of how consumers act and think. There's only one way to stick it to him now, lets get selling.
1) It's an eMachine.Saad said:I think he's right. For $500, I would expect a keyboard and mouse, if not a display. A comparable PC, the T2984 from emachines includes a keyboard and mouse (and comparable software/hardware).
I do think Apple would be sensible to offer a slightly reduced KB & Mouse package with the Mini purchase, but it's here nor there. Just look at the number of people on this board, right now who have put in orders for this machine - to add to their collection, to switch, to give to their parents... et cetera.
Sit back Bill, put away that cloudy crystal ball, take a chill pill and watch the real world.
As someone who owns an eMachines (T2542), I can definitely say that it's really not comparable to the Mac mini. I use my eMachine for Quicken (since Quicken for Mac is a joke) and some general web use. I don't do anything fancy with it, but since I'm a computer tech I need to know both PCs and Macs. (And have been working with both for over 20 years.) But my recently purchased iBook 1.2 GHz 12" runs circles around my PC.Saad said:I think he's right. For $500, I would expect a keyboard and mouse, if not a display. A comparable PC, the T2984 from emachines includes a keyboard and mouse (and comparable software/hardware).
I think your both wrong. You get things that aren't even available on most $499 PCs:Saad said:I think he's right. For $500, I would expect a keyboard and mouse, if not a display. A comparable PC, the T2984 from emachines includes a keyboard and mouse (and comparable software/hardware).
PS2 to USB adapters aren't very reliable. You can buy a USB keyboard for as little as $10, and a GOOD USB Optical Mouse for as little as $10. So for $20 you can have a good USB keyboard and mouse.xtremdav45 said:Here is a simple solution Apple can do to handle the "PS/2 Keyboard/mouse" problem.
Sell adapters in the store that let you plug in a PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse then plug the adapter into a USB port. I believe Fry's Electronics had them for free after rebate this weekend. It would be a simple, and cheap solution for Apple to sell these in their stores.
And regarding the monitor problem, if Apple was interested in getting as many mac mini's out as possible, they could have their employees tell people that they could go to Best Buy and buy a $100 monitor instead of the $999 display Apple makes.
Couldn't have said it better myself. And I honestly don't see how he can believe that all PC's 3 or 4 years old are using 15" CRT monitors... I have a 15" CRT that came with our 68k powermac nearly 10 years agomklos said:I think your both wrong. You get things that aren't even available on most $499 PCs:
1. DVI Port (*VGA too with an adapter) Most PCs come with ONLY VGA...
2. FireWire 400
3. Ethernet (I know some come with it, but most don't)
4. CDRW/DVD Combo Drive (Most $499 PCs come with a 52x CDROM)
5. ATI Radeon 9200 Pro (32 MB of RAM NOT SHARED RAM!) Most if not all $499 PCs use shared RAM for video.
6. iLife '05 (NOTHING on the PC side compares to it)
7. Quicken 2005 (possibly 2004, but you get the point)
8. AppleWorks (yes a crappy office suite, but at least you get one!)
9. AirPort Extreme/Bluetooth ready...PCs don't have it available (PCI Cards yes I know, but not internal)
10. Mac OS X.3.x (Winblows DOES NOT compare to it.)
$499 PCs come with very little, if any software at all. Crap like real player and Winblows Media player don't count as they're free anyways. You don't get any games, office suites, financial software, etc...
Where's the software/hardware comparison???
Now to get back at me...go out and spend an hour or so looking for a $499 or slightly higher PC with these, or most of these options and make up some kind of story that nobody will buy.