"Birth Tourism" Industry growing in the U.S.

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  1. IgnatiusTheKing macrumors 68040

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    Apparently hotels are catering specifically to well-to-do foreigners who want their children to have the "benefits of U.S. citizenship" without actually living here. This is, in my opinion, yet another reason the U.S. immigration policy needs to be completely scrapped and rewritten from scratch.

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    60 votes in the Senate. ;)
     
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    That is outrageous. This should not be allowed.
     
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    Actually, it would take a two-thirds vote in both houses and ratification by three-fourths of the states, since it would amend Section 1 of the 14th amendment.
     
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    Actually it would be three-fourths of the states. ;)
     
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    It's interesting that as a legal resident of the US (CDN Citizen) I get thoroughly grilled by US Customs and Immigration every time I come back...but these expectant mothers who are obviously showing don't?!? :eek:

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    Well, it's not illegal to have a kid if your foreign and in the US, so I'm guessing they don't ask. But it certainly seems they should.
     
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    Custom officials regularly refuse items entry into the country because they might contain harmful parasites.

    Now we just have to add human fetuses to the list of harmful parasites and problem solved.
     
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    Does any other country have a rule like this?
     
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    Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's the big deal? If you have the kind of money to spend thousands of dollars in a luxury hotel during pregnancy, you're probably the type of person who will bring capital into the country. At the very least, if you have that kind of money, you'd be the type of parent to ensure your child was well-educated, so even if their children ever chose to return to the United States, they would be far more likely to fill the types of positions we need to fill.
     
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    This is just another example of parents wanting the best for the children. If I lived elsewhere, I might think of doing the same thing.
     
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    anybody who can afford to fly their pregnant wives to the US and stay at a posh hotel and pay in full for the delivery at a hospital is definitely not poor or destitute by any means.

    we should welcoming them and their money with open arms.

    our focus should be directed at anchor babies from latin america/mexico.
     
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    I think our focus should be eliminating this loophole for all, regardless of race or class.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    How is it a loophole? The parents are most likely gaining legal entry if they can spend thousands on a luxury hotel.

    Any attempt at closing this perceived loophole would involve rejecting some fairly basic human rights values.
     
  18. IgnatiusTheKing thread starter macrumors 68040

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    It's a loophole because it was intended to grant the rights of citizens to children born in the U.S. to parents who are legal, resident aliens and plan to stay here for the long haul and contribute to our society.

    It would be easy to close by getting rid of the clause that says that anyone born here is a U.S. citizen automatically and replacing with with something that says they parent must either be a citizen themselves or a long-term, legal resident. That would not put any "human rights values" into jeopardy.
     
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    This is nothing new. Just better packaging. Pregnant moms have been coming to the US for years to give birth to "anchor children."
     
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    What a complete laugh of a sensationalist article :D!

    Good old question mark title!

    Unattributed "experts". "Many". Only 7 670 births of your total population with no figures on how many are illegal immigrants/genuine tourists, nor how many wish at all to take up residency/use the laws to apply for residency. Topped off with an anedotal story about a turkish-theme hotel. It's got it all. Immigration (getting people angry), rich people abusing the law (gets people angry), people getting residency sneakily (americans getting more angry who went to far less effort for their citizenship!).

    We must do something immediately!1!1!
     
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    What benefit? Signing up for selective services? The US isn't going to do much for you unless you live here, and even then . . . Why the US? Why not a more generous country (welfare-wise) like Sweden?
     
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    That's what I thought. It would be a matter of amending the Constitution, not simply amending a law.

    Exactly. What percentage of foreigners can afford this? It's probably pretty small. Even if they were to go the budget route, it would probably be out of reach for the vast majority of the world's population.

    It's not a loophole at all. It's a direct result of the failure of the Founding Fathers to ban slavery. Their pact with the devil came back to bite future generations in the butt.

    That's BS. It had nothing to do with the long haul or resident aliens and everything to do with slavery.
     
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    Given if you come from anywhere that it might be worthwhile to spend $45k to get US citizenship you're going to require an interview to get a visa* - on top of which you need a doctors note to get on the plane at 8 months pregnant - and then you have to get through US immigration which is probably the toughest in the world.

    I call ******** on this being a remotely significant problem.

    * and if its like any other country which requires a visa you're likely to have to get the visa within 90 days of arrival - so your pregnancy should be obvious.
     
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    Is this really a problem. A handful of rich people come here to have a baby. Shrug.
     
  25. IgnatiusTheKing thread starter macrumors 68040

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    You might want to do a little more research on the 14th Amendment before you start throwing around absolutes.

    No, but it is indicative of a problem we have in this country with our citizenship law. Lots of non-wealthy people come here illegally and have babies that are automatically granted citizenship.
     

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