Black El Paso Police Chief: BLM Is A ‘Radical Hate Group’

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  1. XrayTed macrumors regular

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    Very heartening to hear a black man in a responsible LE position denounce these racist, militant and increasingly violent left wing agitators for what they are - Of course, he will be labeled an Uncle Tom for his efforts, and probably have numerous death threats against him.



    “Black Lives Matter, as far as I am concerned, is a radical hate group,” Allen said. “And for that purpose alone, I think the leadership of this country needs to look a little bit harder at that particular group. The consequences of what we saw in Dallas is due to their efforts.”

    Notably, Allen himself is black. He has led El Paso’s 1,100-officer force, one of the country’s 50 largest police departments, since 2007. Under his leadership, El Paso has consistently rated as one of America’s safest large cities.


    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/09/b...-is-a-radical-hate-group-video/#ixzz4E49lgZpU
     
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    Anne Coulter is a conservative woman. Does that make her the voice of reason when she goes on Fox News and calls for women's voting rights to be taken away?
     
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    Interesting article in Slate this weekend:

    and

    Donald Trump; half of Fox News; David Duke; etc. are all on the race war team. Why? Because its good for them to stoke racial animosities. And I think we all have a pretty good idea where the OP stands.
     
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    I have no opinion on that as I've never heard her stance on taking womens voting rights away, don't really care to, and don't see what that has to do with the posted topic

    Black El Paso Police Chief: BLM Is A ‘Radical Hate Group’
     
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    Anne Coulter is a paid provocateur, are you really trying to straw man Anne Coulter to the black police Chief of a major City?

    Nice strawman
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    And when the left wing media talks about white privilege, male privilege, cis privilege ect. you don't think that stokes animosity and further divides people? Both the left and rightwing media are stoking racial animosity, I use to think it was only from the right wing, but now I see that the leftwing media is the bigger problem.
     
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    I was mocking your “Notably, Allen himself is black.” comment.

    And as for BLM, it’s NOT a tightly organized group. There are good people in and bad people in it. Much like the police themselves.
     
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    The "left wing media" doesn't really exist. At least in the way that you think it does.

    Are you seriously saying that nobody can suggest that some people in our society are privileged? Because thats insane. Obviously some people are privileged. Are Donald Trump's kids privileged? Did Sam Walton's kids have to struggle to get rich the same way as their father did? Are they more privileged than you or me? Probably yes, at least on a financial basis.

    But in your insane world pointing out that some people have advantages that many of the rest of us don't is somehow "stoking animosity"?

    Right, another one for my list.
     
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    I think plenty of whites as well as black need to listen to some of Jane Elliott's speeches and interviews.

    You need to listen to some of Jane Elliott's speeches and interviews. She's notably White.
     
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    Most of the media is left wing. Unless I agree with it :p
     
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    Nope, I did not say that at all, privilege exists. Privilege is not based on race, sex or other identification, privilege is based more on class. Being white, black, or asian might increase the likelihood of privilege, but it in not what determines it.

    And yes Trumps children are very privileged and so are Obamas children. Kids of any colour growing up in a trailer park are less privileged.


     
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    It was not my comment, that was from the article.

    I do think it is notable for any black man, especially in a responsible, public position, to come out against these unabashed racist demagogues who have the support and sympathy from our so-called president, a very ballsy and encouraging move.
    I don't know how tight knit they are, I don't know their organizational structure. They advocate anarchy, violence and hatred of whites, and are rumored to be funded by notorious nation wrecker and Hillary supporter Soros.
    If they keep calling for death for white police officers in particular and whites in general, tough to see how even Obamas appointed minions can avoid classifying them as a hate/terror group, no matter how tight knit they may or may not be.

    Someone is calling the shots, and that person or persons need to be held accountable for the violent and murderous actions that their racist supremacist rhetoric produces.
     
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    Let me explain how the "left wing media" got invented. Just so, the next time you hear that phrase, you can put it into context.

    Most serious journalists, and publications, news stations, etc. put a pretty high value on accuracy and truthfulness. Being accurate about the details in a story is - from the journalists point of view - pretty much the most important part of any story. Unless they are pretty certain they can confirm the story, most news editors don't want to put their reputation, or that of their organization, at risk by publishing a story that later turns out to be false.

    Point #1: Most "news media" is going to be pretty biased in terms of being truthful.

    Most "non left wing" politicians, talking heads, etc. hold on to views and opinions that are fundamentally untrue. They think that "trickle down" economics works (it doesn't). That global warming is a hoax (it isn't.) That Americans owning guns makes them safer (they don't.) That "abstinence only" birth control programs work (they don't.) That dangerous Muslims and Mexicans are making Americans unsafe (they aren't.)

    See a trend here?

    Point #2: Most Conservative shibboleths and talking points are provably, demonstrably false.

    I think you can see where this is going. Anyone who disagrees with Conservative's delusions is immediately labelled "left wing media."
     
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    I love irony.
     
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    My emphasis. You're trying to assign a unified view to a collection of varied individuals. BLM participants are all violent in the same way all cops are psycho -- they aren't. And the Soros reference is hilarious icing on the cake.
     
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    Yeah, and there were good Nazis and bad Nazis too - Yet the Allies in judgement declared the whole party a criminal organization and made no exceptions for good ones.
    You can go on and on endlessly overthinking this, if they are advocating and supporting violent racist goals, which is the whole theme of their "movement", then they are just as guilty as any other. The purpose of joining any unified movement in the 1st place is common goals and ideology.

    As for Soros, clearly you are far in the dark and/or have the blinders on - Take your pick [I'm sure many of the sources will not be up to your high standards, maybe some will be].

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=soros+black+lives+matter



    SUPPORTING GROUPS THAT HELPED LEAD & PROMOTE THE ANTI-POLICE PROTESTS OF 2014 (IN FERGUSON, MISSOURI, ETC.)

    In 2014, two separate white-police-vs.-black-suspect altercations that resulted in the deaths of the blacks involved became the focal points of a massive, nationwide protest movement alleging that white officers were routinely targeting African Americans with racial profiling and the unjustified use of force:

    (a) On July 17, 2014, a 43-year-old African American named Eric Garner died in Staten Island, New York, after having resisted several white police officers' efforts to arrest him for illegally selling “loosies,” single cigarettes from packs without tax stamps. One of the officers at the scene put his arms around the much taller Garner's neck and took him down to the ground with a headlock/chokehold. While he was being subdued, Garner reportedly told the officers a number of times, "I can't breathe." A black NYPD sergeant supervised the entire altercation and never ordered that officer to release the hold. Garner subsequently suffered cardiac arrest in an ambulance that was taking him to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead approximately an hour after the initial altercation. City medical examiners later concluded that he had died as a result of an interplay between the police officer’s hold and Garner’s multiple chronic infirmities, which included bronchial asthma, heart disease, obesity, and hypertensive cardiovascular disease. "I Can't Breathe" became a popular slogan of demonstrators who later protested Garner's death in rallies across the United States.

    (b) On August 9, 2014, a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri shot and killed an 18-year-old black male named Michael Brown in an altercation that occurred just minutes after Brown had perpetrated a strong-armed robbery of a local convenience store. Brown's death set off a massive wave of protests and riots in Ferguson, and eventually grew into a national movement denouncing an alleged epidemic of police brutality against African Americans. The protesters claimed, falsely: (a) that Brown had been shot in the back while fleeing from the officer, and (b) that Brown at one point had raised his hands in the air submissively in an attempt to surrender but was shot anyway. Thus, "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" became a popular slogan of the demonstrators who later protested Brown's death. When compelling ballistic, eyewitness, and forensic evidence eventually (in late October 2014) indicated that Brown in fact had assaulted the officer and had tried to steal his gun just prior to the fatal shooting, the protesters' outrage over the incident was undiminished. A grand jury announced on November 24, 2014 that it would not indict the officer who had shot Brown -- because of overwhelming evidence indicating that the shooting was done in self-defense. This announcement, too, touched off protests and riots.

    Through his Open Society Foundations, Soros in 2014 gave at least $33 million to support already-established groups that, as The Washington Times puts it, "emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson" and helped lead the anti-polce protests. "The financial tether from Mr. Soros to the activist groups gave rise to a combustible protest movement that transformed a one-day criminal event in Missouri into a 24-hour-a-day national cause celebre," says the Times.

    Among these activist organizations funded by Soros were the Advancement Project, the Center for Community Change, Colorlines, the Don't Shoot Coalition, the Dream Defenders, the Drug Policy Alliance, Equal Justice USA, the Gamaliel Foundation, the Hands Up Coalition, Make the Road New York, Millennial Activists United, Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment (the rebranded Missouri branch of ACORN), the Organization for Black Struggle, PICO, and the Samuel Dewitt Proctor Conference (where Jeremiah Wright was a trustee), the SEIU, national LGBT organizations, climate environmentalists, amnesty groups, pro-Palestinian organizations, and Christian social justice groups.

    "The plethora of organizations involved," explains The Washington Times, not only shared Mr. Soros' funding, but they also fed off each other, using content and buzzwords developed by one organization on another's website, referencing each other's news columns and by creating a social media echo chamber of Facebook 'likes' and Twitter hashtags that dominated the mainstream media and personal online newsfeeds."

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977



    The Real Power and Purpose Behind the ‘Black Lives Matter’ Movement

    Whatever legitimacy the “Black Lives Matters” (BLM) movement may have is lost in its funding from one George Soros. Mr. Soros is the major financial source responsible for funding the leftist movement in America. (See link for list of left wing organization funded by George Soros. (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977). These left-wing groups supported by Soros have one thing in common: to transform America.

    Groups like ACORN and Occupy Wall Street are a disruptive influence in our culture and seek to divide and transform our society into a Marxist design. Linked to this disruptive scheme is Black Lives Matters through Soros support and funds.

    George Soros’s funding of the BLM movement is part of an integration into a tapestry of organizations used to disrupt and weaken our society to engineer a socialistic transformation. Since the 1920s and 1930s, as presented in Harold Cruse’s book “The Crisis of The Negro Intellectual,” there has been a focused strategy by the Communist party to use the black community and the poor as a battering ram against “the system” for the purpose of fundamentally changing America into a leftist utopia. Their successful efforts in infiltrating the civil rights movement and other legitimate struggles for justice has been well-documented by many historians and scholars recording the history of the civil rights movement in America.

    http://blackcommunitynews.com/the-real-power-and-purpose-behind-black-lives-matter-movement/


    George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action
    Liberal billionaire gave at least $33 million in one year to groups that emboldened activists


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/
     
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    The comparison of BLM to Nazis...ewwwww. I'll just leave that one alone.

    As far as BLM being centralized or unified:

    That's not a very unified movement. For example, the founders of BLM never even knew about BLM interrupting Bernie Sanders' speech until after it was over.

    I followed your Google link about Soros. Some of those top hits: Infowars, Rush Limbaugh, YouTube and the Washington Times. So you're right, none of those sources are exactly hard, reliable news sites.

    On the other side:

    So as much as the right would like to portray Black Lives Matter as some kind of black version of ISIS and George Soros as Professor Moriarty, it ain't happening.
     
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    Here's the way I see it. As the Koch Bros. are to the far left, so George Soros is to the far right.

    The difference being that, given the far right's propensity towards believing everything is BOMBASTIC CONSPIRACIES BEING PLAYED OUT RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF US, AND THE SHEEPLE ARE STUPID TO SEE IT, OPEN YOUR EYES/WAKE UP, they see Soros less as a rich billionaire ***hole who uses his wealth to buy more influence that should be considered comfortable, and more as LITERALLY THE DEVIL, plying his evil trade with James Bond villain overtones.

    I mean, if you're sitting around, watching a BLM protest on TV, thinking that each and every one of them are actors paid and bought for by George Soros, you might need to step back, assess your situation, and realize that maybe drinking all the mercury out of those thermometers wasn't such a good idea after all.
     
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    You're not unright :) . more later . maybe.
     
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    They aren't all actors, but the organizers are. The rest are sheep participating in an experience. When people are being bused in by Labor Unions, there is nothing spontaneous about anything.
     
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    You're putting far too much emphasis on the minute details.
     
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    Kevin Zimmerman, "a director at Soros’s Open Society Foundations", would be the last person I'd ask for accurate, honest info what his nation wrecking boss is up to.
     

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