...me said:The worst part of this may prove to be that we have no exit strategy for this conflict. That, if you remember, was faulted as the reason the first Gulf War seemed like half a failure after it was all over.
Thank you ,Im scared to go look but who would have ever thought that Bush and the Gang would screw this war up so Bad? who would have thought it would cost us over 300 billion? 2,000 lives 15,000 injured and still be nowhere except we got Saddam. Whatever happened to Taft?mactastic said:Lol... I'll resist the urge to quote some of DHM's posts here. I'm sure he'd be horrified. It truly is amazing how far he's come since then.
yeah, i noticed that, too. glad there's a "paper" trail, though.IJ Reilly said:Based on the parts quoted back, I'd have to guess he was embarrassed. Anybody else?
I think there were a small number of us who nailed it dead nuts. At the risk of sounding like a pompous ass, I was bold and still pretty darn close, which is surprising because I was being extremely contrarian and thought I sticking my neck out pretty far. Zim made excellent arguments that messed with the pro-war crowd's heads quite a bit (or would have if they weren't so dense).Thomas Veil said:Man, do a lot of us sound dumb in that thread...not comprehending what was really going on.
I did, I was voting republican back then not anymore after seeing 5 years of Bush and the Republican Gang. If a lot of folks could go back and vote Gore they would. Bush/Cheney are a abomination to this Great Country of ours and every thing it stands for. Little things like Freedom,Liberty,Justice have been replaced with Secret jails, Lots of Spin,Patriot Act, and maneuvering around our own Laws.zimv20 said:a number of us did. have a look.
that's where i was off-base, too. i thought there'd be something found, and then we'd get to argue if it was significant enough to warrant the invasion. and then i claimed that there's no way the bush administration would let nothing be found (i.e. they'd plant it).pseudobrit said:I think my worst transgression was to presume that Saddam would still be in possession of some old, crusty mothballed chemical shells from the 80s.
Yes, IJ noted that earlier in this thread.rdowns said:Very interesting read. Did you notice some had gone back and deleted their posts a year or so later?
Now, now... I've already tormented him enough on that issue. He's made amends.DHM, I was tempted to post a quote or two from you but I'll refrain.
Glad you didnt, cause if you did i might let it slip that you were responsible for me getting a Alienware and not a G5 Powermacrdowns said:Very interesting read. Did you notice some had gone back and deleted their posts a year or so later?
DHM, I was tempted to post a quote or two from you but I'll refrain.
I would argue that Afghanistan would have turned out like Iraq -- or much more similar to the Soviet experience -- had we tried to occupy the country with large numbers of American troops.tristan said:I think Afghanistan gave many of us false expectations for Iraq. I was overseas when 9/11 happened, and one of my British friends argued that it was foolhardy to go into Afghanistan, and that the Russians had gotten bogged down there for years, and the same thing would happen to us.
I listened to his arguments, but thought that going into afghanistan was something we had to do given 9/11, and was pleasantly surprised when we got out of there pretty quickly and set up a relatively stable government. When the same arguments came up about Iraq, I laughed them off, but in that case, the arguments were valid.