Booker: It would be ‘irresponsible’ not to consider running for president

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  1. RootBeerMan macrumors 65816

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    While it's not an admission that he is running, it looks like he is seriously considering it, at least. As Democratic candidates go, I find him far less repellent than many of the others who are obviously jockeying for a place in the 2020 race. He's not as "progressive" or democratically socialist, as many out there and he does have executive experience, (which I really have come to consider a must). I disagree with him on many issues, (too many to vote for him), but have to concede that he may well be the best candidate that the Dems could run. He would be less distasteful to the Independents than Hillary was, (acceptable even in many areas), and wouldn't scare the more moderate Dems and voters out there. How well he would do against Trump remains to be seen, but he would certainly be better than Cheeto Hitler when it came to actually running things, I think. Guess we'll just have to see where things go and who else decides to throw their hats in the ring.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...onsible-not-to-consider-running-for-president

    Booker On The Issues
     
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    He actually looks to be one of the better possibles that have bobbed up in the Dem landscape.
    Interesting ...
     
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    I liked Booker but he's a shill for the pharmaceutical industry. Is it too much to ask for a candidate not so easily bought and paid for by corporate influence?
     
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    I love Booker. I've been pushing him in 2020 since 2016.
     
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    Yeah, I don’t love him for that reason either. I’ll certainly vote for him if he’s the nominee all the same.
     
  6. RootBeerMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Looks like that is history and not current practice. Looking at Open Secrets they weren't even his top donors, by a good bit.
    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/340303-cory-booker-to-pause-fundraising-from-pharma-companies
    https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/industries?cid=N00035267&cycle=CAREER

    Seems no better or worse than others in contributions.
     
  7. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 604

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    A politician from Jersey, Um, NO THANKS!!!!!!!
     
  8. RootBeerMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Well, the one from NYC isn't working out so well.
     
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    Cory Booker

    So much for stealing second

    Telling one's own personal story is often the most powerful way to make a point, or, more importantly, to make people think. When grandiose statements entrenched in politically correct terminology are made, many may listen but few will hear. When I hesitated in writing this column, I realized I was basking in hypocrisy. So instead I chose to write and risk. New Year's Eve 1984 I will never forget. I was 15. As the ball dropped, I leaned over to hug a friend and she met me instead with an overwhelming kiss. As we fumbled upon the bed, I remember debating my next "move" as if it were a chess game. With the "Top Gun" slogan ringing in my head, I slowly reached for her breast. After having my hand pushed away once, I reached my "mark." Our groping ended soon and while no "relationship" ensued, a friendship did. You see, the next week in school she told me that she was drunk that night and didn't really know what she was doing. While she liked me a lot, she said she just wanted to be friends. I have gotten used to those five words, but that's another column. Ever since puberty, I remember receiving messages that sex was a game, a competition. Sexual relations were best achieved through luck, guile, strategy or coercion. Another friend in high school counseled me on the importance of drinking

    "With liquor you'll get to bed quicker," she said. Thinking about her statement back then, I realized its veracity. Coming to college, I was immersed in the same sort of attitudes. "What do you think happened? She invited me back to her room at 3 a.m." "I've got to find a way to snatch that snatch." "The best thing for that girl would be to be tied down and screwed." Out of context these statements seem shocking, but in context they were barely noticed. After two years at Stanford, I snapped from one extreme to the other. Once, during my sophomore year, in response to a slew of my verbiage, a friend of mine chidingly called me a man-hater. In retrospect, my soliloquy titled "The Oppressive Nature Of Male Dominated Society And Its Violent Manifestations: Rape, Anorexia, Battered Wives" may have been a surreptitious attempt to convince her that I was a sensitive man, but more likely I was trying to convince myself that my attitudes had changed. My polar leap had little to do with residential education. It had to do with a deluge of reality. You see, I had begun listening to the raw truth from men and women discussing rape about two years ago as a peer counselor. The conversations were personal accounts, not rhetoric; they were real life, not dorm programing.

    It was a wake-up call — I will never be the same. I find myself with no conclusion for this column. A conclusion would speak of a simplicity I do not feel. I can find little clarity in the torment of emotions I now experience when even allusions to this issue are made. All I have are poignant visions. I see that preceding all the horrors of rape are a host of skewed attitudes. I see my friends seeking to "get some" or to "score." I see people making power plays. I see myself at 15 trotting around the bases and stealing second. I now see the crowds, no, not the spectators, but the thousands, the millions who are rarely seen or heard. I've seen enough. I spoke to a 40 year old woman who has trouble looking at her self in the mirror when she gets out of the shower; to her, her body is always dirty. She can't make love, she never had an orgasm, she never will forget what happened her first time. She can't close her eyes.

    'I received messages that sex was best achieved through guile and strategy.'
    From Feb 1992
     
  10. RootBeerMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    And? Maybe you're getting something from this that others won't. Care to elucidate?
     
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    Didn't you read the article? He wrote that he groped a drunk female and got his hand pushed away.
     
  12. RootBeerMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yep, I read it. Sounds like two young, inebriated adults were mutually fooling around and it went nowhere. Didn't see any abuse or assault in it, at all, and neither did the young woman, apparently.

    Sounds like you want something to be there that wasn't.
     
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    15 is considered adults? And when is it ever okay to take advantage of an intoxicated female?


    Indeed.
     
  14. RootBeerMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Teenagers, young adults, whatever. I remember me at that age, and my friends, (male and female) and don't see much of a difference. And, according to the article she initiated things. Sounds like consent all around.

    Different times and not the conservative dreamworld that many would like to think existed back then. Maybe not the best decisions, but no-one was harmed or assaulted.
     
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    Even this confessional is an utter lie. Par for the course for the fabulist (and faaaaabulous!) Cory Booker, who is homosexual. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, but I was under the impression that pretending to be straight was a no-no in their community.
     
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    What?
     
  17. RootBeerMan thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Cripes, it just never stops with you people, does it? Booker has said, time and again, that he's straight and you guys can't accept it. Apparently it does matter to you or you wouldn't have brought it up, in an attempt to slander him. It's fair game to attack his policies, but this is just lame. Do you say the same about Lindsey Graham? Or Jeff Sessions?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/29/cory-booker-gay-or-nay/2726237/
     
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    Hopefully he uses the Top Gun Anthem as his campaign song.
     
  19. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    Didn't this guy come up with an imaginary friend? Not when he was 7 but like as an adult?
     
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    I didn't even know this was a "thing" with the right and Booker. So in 2020, if Booker is the candidate, the GOP's platform is going to be "Don't vote for the maybe-gay guy cause gays are evil and will want you to bake a cake for their weddings".
     
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    Who’s Cheeto Hitler?
     
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    Where have you been? That is the name that many here have for President Trump.
     
  23. Vanilla Ice macrumors 6502

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    But Trump is not murdering Jews and taking away our guns? And he sure isn’t Chester Cheetah either.
     
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    See right there tells me we'd elect another idiot who doesn't know the story. Spartacus did everything he could to hide his identity, not reveal it and where it like a badge. He didn't run out and announce "I'm Spartacus". If you're going to use a reference at least know a little something.
     

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