BREAKING: DOMA Ruled Unconstitutional

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by rdowns, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003

  2. MorphingDragon macrumors 603


    Mar 27, 2009
    The World Inbetween
    Yay I Guess.

    I should be excited, but it was going to happen eventually. :)
  3. Grey Beard macrumors 65816

    Grey Beard

    Sep 10, 2005
    The Antipodes.
  4. Peace macrumors Core


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
    while this appears to be good keep in mind this was a low court ruling. I'm quit sure it will continue up the court ladder.
  5. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    Yeah, but it's gonna be dead soon enough.
  6. Moyank24 macrumors 601


    Aug 31, 2009
    in a New York State of mind
    Good News :D

    We knew it would evenutally happen - but still very, very good news.
  7. thekev macrumors 604


    Aug 5, 2010
    I find idiotic voter pandering laws to be really annoying. We have other issues, and these tie up the system debating laws that should never have been passed. It's wasteful that they spent the resources to pass it in the first place, and now further resources must be spent to (justifiably) overturn it.

    It's not just this law. The same principle annoys me with a lot of things.
  8. bradl macrumors 68040


    Jun 16, 2008
    In relation to the Prop. 8 battle, does anyone else see the irony in this besides me?

    Anywho, this brings up a few issues, which will make the next few SCOTUS sessions rather interesting (let's face it; this is going to SCOTUS as well). Assuming that SCOTUS takes this case before the Prop. 8 case, would the ruling on this trump that in the Prop. 8 case? I am thinking yes and no, because while it will declare that while marriage wouldn't be defined as only between a man and a woman, it also doesn't mean that gays could marry (semantics, I know). Plus, I don't know if the legality of defining rights via voter referendum is being decided in the Prop. 8 case. If so, then DOMA getting struck down wouldn't trump Prop. 8.

    Either way, this gives the pro-gay marriage opponents a ton of ammo, with the 14th Amendment being on their side (as it should be). I just would love to be a fly on the wall (even more so now) when SCOTUS hears these cases.

  9. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality
    Yeah, well I thought Citizens United was gonna lose too, but...

    Still, good news as far as it goes.
  10. likemyorbs macrumors 68000


    Jul 20, 2008
    Looks like this social issue is going to be put in the spotlight for the november elections. Good, it's been swept under the rug for a long time now.
  11. MorphingDragon, Feb 23, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2012
  12. Happybunny macrumors 68000

    Sep 9, 2010
    Finally some good news, Washington state has just joined the rest of us in the 21st Century.:D
  13. CalBoy macrumors 604


    May 21, 2007
    It's not really very ironic or unexpected. The other DOMA challenges (one out of Boston, and another out of the 2nd Circuit in New York) were in very friendly courts. It just so happens that the federal employee in this case also happens to work for the courts.
    There isn't likely to be much overlap with Prop 8 as it was decided by the Ninth Circuit since issues there are related to standing and the quirky way the history of Prop 8 unfolded.

    However, since this is now the third decision striking down DOMA, it greatly increases the chances that SCOTUS will hear this case and will not able to kick the can down the road by using a procedural excuse like standing.

    They could, however, completely avoid the issue of gay rights and issue a narrower ruling based on federalism and the Full Faith and Credit Clause, which would still be a huge victory, but much less powerful than one that said DOMA's discriminatory policies are unconstitutional.

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