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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by zimv20, Mar 19, 2006.
interesting how cheney's take on reality is anything but realistic.
From today's (Cleveland) Plain Dealer:
These people are morons. Absolute morons.
They have this childish view of American hegemony. They are draft-dodgers themselves, yet were chomping at the bit for a chance to play soldier and kick the ass of an obviously weaker opponent. They are all balls and no brains. They are tactically incompetent and deaf to people who are competent. And now they're running all over the country, still trying to sell this piece of cow poop by telling us it's actually a chocolate eclair.
Why does that read like Rumsfeld's being set up as the fall guy to me?
a real leader would have ousted rumsfeld after abu ghraib, if not before. but bush treasures loyalty above little else. so if rumsfeld is being set up: 1) by whom, and 2) what of those things about rumsfeld's role in planning iraq is untrue?
And this surprises you?
As for Rummie, technically you can't be the fall guy if it's your fault. Not saying we can blame it all on him, there's plenty of blame to go all around. But he was in charge when it happened, ordered a lot of the things that went wrong, and attempted to cover up the mistakes, defending things no matter how bad they got. Iraq is a mess, most people know it, and all we're getting is more of the same rhetoric about freedom terrorism. Yeah, that'll fix things.
The comment about Nazi Germany just pisses me off, and I have a feeling most people will feel the same way.
I'd question the balls bit, too.
And don't forget...Rummy offered to resign after Bush's first term, and Bush refused to accept his resignation!
That's not loyalty, that's stupidity above and beyond the call.
He probably couldn't afford to. Rumsfeld knows where all the bodies are buried.
Zimv20 i saw Cheney on face the nation yesterday and i had to laugh, he stated the President was doing a "Superb" job. I hate to see Bush's poor work. These guys are not connected to reality. I still have yet to see one word about what they are doing about the core problem. Islam? How can you do anything when kids are being taught to hate the infidel,kill the American,Jew and the infidel,Jihad and what have. The whole problem in this part of the world is the brain washing of the young, then add Bush's bombing of all their relatives and you have the "Superb" job Bush is doing.
That always seemed to me to be fake. They agreed Rumsfeld would offer his resignation and Bush would refuse it. In their minds, it made them both seem "noble".
Is there such a thing as a no-confidence vote in the US?
Funny how Bush was the swaggering 'War President' a year ago. Now he won't say the word?
And the phrase is "All hat, and no cattle".
No- but we need to follow your lead and get one soon. No better reason than this President.
Bush was here earlier today, in Cleveland, giving a speech to the City Club telling us why we just need to be patient and how everything will turn out all right.
As a protester.
Stood outside in the cold on Public Square with about a hundred other people for over an hour, chanting and holding up homemade signs.
Good for you. Did you get any media coverage?
Protest in Cleveland
finally! the protestors and media agree on a number!
...maybe it's just easier when the crowd is small enough to count...
At least three local TV news stations were taking pictures of us. There were also a few photographers who might've been from the local papers...and one guy I talked to who had a rather fancy industrial-level video camera and said he was shooting a documentary on Bush protests. Since I work for a local cable operation, I gave him my card and told him to call me when he gets his program finished.
There were two or three pro-Bush counter-protesters there. One had a sign that said, "Grow up, hippies."
I have to say...it doesn't help the cause when our side has people who hold their signs upside down:
Of course, I was there, and even I didn't see this sign. Of course the media did, however.
It's not a war, it's just a Middle Eastern 'boo-boo'.
At least that's shorter than "Epic Global Struggle Against Terrorist Extremism in the Middle East" or whatever they called it.
Maybe they'd prefer "The Epic Middle Eastern Boo-Boo ".
Yes, with the frowny face .
You're still thinking too negatively. They have to put a smiley face on it. That's why they used to call it "Operation Iraqi Freedom".
We just didn't realize they meant freedom from US!
That's why they call it Mess 'O' Potamia!