Bye Bye... You Name It (Environmental Issues)

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  1. Huntn, Jul 22, 2015
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    Bye Bye Glaciers:
    2015, I never imagined in my lifetime...Bye Bye New Orleans, Miami, Manhattan (
    link), 50 years from now?

    Ask you Republican elected officials why they've described global warming as a myth (as long as I can remember) and why human beings hold no responsibility in this process?


    Washington post: The melting of Antarctica was already really bad. It just got worse



    Ars Tecnica: Sudden melt strikes glaciers on the Antarctic Peninsula

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  2. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    climate changes, always has & always will. any of you buy your carbon credits?
     
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    Changing != changing in a matter of years, while at the same time destroying the natural habitat of pretty much all living creatures, along with their populations.
     
  4. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    Lol, keep your head in the sand until the hole fills with water. :D
     
  5. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    I help out as a volunteer reforesting areas in my state. I also cycle for the majority of my journeys now after selling my car off (see thread). My electricity is purchased offset where possible which is marginally more expensive but imo more than worth it.

    You can rest assured that some of us will at least try to leave your children a better world.
     
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    People die. Always have & always will.

    So I guess it's all just part of the natural process if I go out and murder a few.
     
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    CAN'T even collect rain water in some states. it's ok, the sky is falling and man are to blame for all of it, just get your carbon credits, PLEASE.
     
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    One gets the feeling that the above prolific forums poster is just posting for a reaction and attention.
     
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    To look on the bright side, I've always wanted to own some beachfront property...
     
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    in AZ? or your home state?
     
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    My home state. From Huntn's map, the worst case flooding scenario will only put me a little over 150 miles from the ocean.
     
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    Yeah a direct correlation of rain to rising sea levels, a monumentally astute conclusion. Too bad all that fresh water is dumping into the ocean. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah and "just get your carbon credits" seems to mean "you care about it, you pay for it". As if we won't all be paying the extra taxes to cover the resulting weather and related events:

    Researchers at the Center for Climate and Security long have argued that the Syrian drought had a basis in climate change and that the drought had led to widespread displacement. The continued breakdown of law and order in Syria has led to the emergence of ISIS.

    http://www.greenbiz.com/article/how-climate-breeds-conflict-syria-drought-and-civil-war

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    If the climate changes, the climate changes.

    There's nothing we can do about it, so we might as well sit back and relax.
     
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    Does this mean New Jersey gets palm trees? I like palm trees.
     
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    we had a worse case scenario a while ago with the ozone layer, it healed up.

    I can be at the beach in 1.5 hrs :D
     
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    I'd place more blame on China and other parts of Asia for not controlling emissions then the Republicans. I always like how people are so focused on the U.S. that they think there is no pollution coming from other parts of the world. The whole world has to clean-up because only doing it in the U.S. isn't going to solve the problem. Chinese manufacturing is dirty and we are all buying the stuff that comes out of those dirty unregulated plants.

    Don't believe me... Watch this...



    But it is easier to say... Those darn Republicans are responsible for all of this.
     
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    That's two issues you're massively oversimplifying. First of all, the issue with rain collection is that on a large scale is can actually disrupt the natural distribution of water into natural bodies of water. And as for "carbon credits", I'll just tell you for the umpteenth time that Al Gore is NOT, has NEVER BEEN, and will NEVER BE a scientist.
     
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    This is a good analogy. Like climate change and CO2, man made CFCs were implicated in the ozone destruction. As such CFCs ended up being phased out with alternatives found and utilised. There was no financial meltdown to this process with people losing their jobs etc etc. It's a great analogy to keep in mind to stave off the FUD that there will be a drastic collapse of society by shifting energy production away from fossil fuels.
     
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    but he invented in the internet, wait, where the hell did I mention Gore?
    as far as rain collection, what do you say is "large scale"?
     
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    "Healed up"? No, more like in a very long recovery. Ozone levels aren't expected to fully rebound until the latter half of this century.
     
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    An entire city's worth of people would be an example of "large scale".
     
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    but those people are the ones that need the water, it would be for their own use.
     
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    What do you mean, "there's nothing we can do about it"?

    We're the ones who caused it in the first place.
     
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    Other cities in dryer climates need water too. And of course the agriculture industry needs tons of water. And then there is all the wildlife that would suffer if lakes and rivers were left dry.
     

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