CA democrats are really out there.

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  1. jkcerda Suspended

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    http://abc7.com/politics/california-lawmakers-to-fight-trump-on-immigration/1720691/
    first bill is not worth talking about.
    second bill........
    that level of stupidity should hurt.
     
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    What? Are they saying they'll pay for representation for all illegals? Including criminals?

    I hope this state realizes the costs and ramifications this will come with.
     
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    I hope they raise the living crap out of taxes to pay for it, maybe then they will get voted out of office.
     
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    I thought Gideon v. Wainright has already guaranteed representation to everyone under the Sixth Amendment.
     
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    if it was they would not need to pass a bill to pay for it.
     
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    That's not true. SCOTUS can't order states to pay for stuff - States need to pass bills to pay for stuff.
     
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    well let them raise taxes on everyone and see how that works out for them.
     
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    As if that state isn't already stupidly expensive with high levels of homeless people. This is like slapping the face of the citizens they have who could use the financial help.

    "Combined sales and income tax leaders

    The Tax Foundation interprets individual tax burden by what taxpayers actually spend in local and state taxes, rather than report these expenses from the state revenue perspective used by the Census Bureau. Its State and Local Tax Burden Rankings study reported that Americans paid an average rate of 9.9 percent in state and local taxes in 2010. According to the foundation, the five highest state-local tax states were:

    New York 12.8 %
    New Jersey 12.4%
    Connecticut 12.3%
    California 11.2%
    Wisconsin 11.1%"

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    Jkcerda. Just leave CA now. Come to New Hampshire. You'll be the only Mexican in the state but I'll vouch for you so they'll let you in.
     
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    er, you want to be on top,,,,,,,,,,,,,I want a green card just not that bad :p
     
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    As much as it sucks, due process of the law and fair trial applies even to illegal immigrants.
     
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    Come to Ohio, we already have a well established Taco Trucks, I'll put you in touch with my Mexican family.
     
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    Come to TX, we're like half Mexicans but right wing nuts
     
  15. Septembersrain Contributor

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    I'm an actual half Mexican right wing nut.

    And I live in Texas too.
     
  16. jkcerda thread starter Suspended

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    For immigration?
     
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    If a trial is involved and they're on Us soil... yes.
     
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    Immigration is controlled by the Federal government.
     
  20. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    That's not the argument. The argument is highlighted by the OP in red.
     
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    The Feds over ruled what AZ wanted ...
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_v._Wainwright

    same principle-- the right to counsel should not be abridged.
     
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    I don't know if I want to let him in here. @jkcerda voted for Gary Johnson :).

    Besides, some parts of the state are very liberal. If you live on the coast near Portsmouth, you might as well be in California :p.
     
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    He can't leave California until he divulges that mole recipe.
     

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