Calif. teacher suspected of moonlighting in porn videos

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  1. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Frankly, I think they could learn a lot. :D
     
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    We had an art teacher who was built for porn.
     
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    Wish we had teachers like this when I went to school.

    :D
     
  4. Thomas Veil thread starter macrumors 68020

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    "Art" films?
     
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    I can understand why she was suspended - the class will be disrupted and learning will be affected.

    It'd be the same in the work place - if your boss had a sex video and everyone saw it, then the boss would probably end up resigning, as we've seem many times.

    I think if you become a teacher, there's certain things you should avoid doing, and this is one of them.

    Even if she did the porn video long before she became a teacher, doesn't matter. She'll struggle to keep classroom control, and the whole school will know about it causing herself embarrassment.

    Power of the internet. If you are in a position of responsibility, your skeletons will always come out.
     
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    :D Yeah she brings in her work into class to show how it's down. I would image they mosaic out the money shot as to not give the wrong impressions. :D
     
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    Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad...
     

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    It's still an unideal situation to be in, and I really don't think it's fair to condemn anyone who works in the industry by disallowing them any kind of professional role.

    As a society we really need to grow up about this sort of thing.

    By making a big deal out of this there's no way kids aren't going to find this material, the school should not be handling it this way at all.
     
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    Yeah but we are talking about young children. Every kid in the school will be downloading her videos, and I don't expect kids to be mature about it. It's hard to keep the two separate in those two lines of work.
     
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    So basically if someone does porn in their youth, they can't be a whole range of professions forever? Surely you don't want such a broad rule to limit the talent pool for a profession that constantly needs talented and passionate individuals?

    As an aside, I heard this story last week and there are some more pertinent details: beyond the letter, the district suspended a science teacher at a middle school, which makes it extremely easy for students to actually figure out which teacher they should be looking for. The district even asked students who found the original video to help the district find it again later. The entire situation is saddled with moronic, uptight, asinine thinking.
     
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    No, I'm not saying they can't be a range of professions.

    What I'm saying is that if that information goes viral in the school or work place, your reputation is ruptured. In the work place, it may disrupt work briefly, or the given person could have their reputation forever ruined and may have to quit.

    In the school, this is a more critical matter. The teacher's duty is to educate the kids, and to do that requires classroom control and some form of respect from the kids. This sort of news about a teacher will not go away, and it will impact her ability to teach and it'll impact the students since her classroom is unlikely to be taken seriously.

    And even if she hadn't been suspended, everyone in the school would've found out. Gossip about teachers among kids is usual, and something like this is huge.
     
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    It sure is a difficult situation, though my post was more about the situation of someones boss being in a film.

    Still, I don't think the school is handling it well, this should have been kept on the downlow.
     
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    Good point, probably why they use a stage name. Doing both at the same time could be questionable though.
     
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    That is what you stated. You want porn actors to have foresight over all possible future professions, because if they want to be______ they shouldn't do something "questionable" like porn.

    Except that porn is legal. Allowing such a punitive standard over a perfectly legal past action is really disproportionate.

    This seems to imply that teachers can do porn so long as no one finds out. Except that's not how the law works. Either porn itself is a problem, or when something like this happens, we use the opportunity to have a frank discussion with our kids about the real world.



    A frank discussion with kids? What am I smoking?

    Although that's not what happened here (she used to be a porn star), I don't entirely agree. At some point people have the right to a personal life. I can see why parents don't want teachers who are moonlighting as porn stars, but if we take this rule too far, we're going to ask our teachers to be monochromatic individuals who have no persona lives because some parent at some time is going to find a way to be offended.
     
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    I've never said porn was "questionable". Do porn if you want. But doesn't mean people who find out and see you in a porn movie won't see you in a different light.

    Just because something is legal, doesn't mean you can't have a damaged reputation from doing it. Anything sex related can damage careers - just look at all the sex scandals out there. Oh, but you say it's perfectly legal that your boss enjoys an orgy?

    Right, maybe the school should have let her continue her duties and monitored whether there was class disruption or not. I'm just thinking back to when I was at school, and if something like this had happened, the teacher would have been teased and would not be able to teach because she would have little classroom control.
     
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    Young children ? I can understand if these were 9 or 10 year old children but jeezz..Almost every middle school boy has at least one playboy magazine hidden somewhere in their room.
     
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    Speaking of middle school boys and Playboy…


    Had a really hot math teacher in 8th grade. Was long rumored she was a model and had been in Playboy. One day my friend shows up for school with the issue our teacher was in. She wasn't nude but in a very low cut see through top. He wanted to leave it on her desk before class and watch as she came in. I wanted to take it home to masturbate to. I won. :D
     
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    Well, apparently everybody does know about it. And you know what? If they just left it alone, it would be big news for a few weeks, and then die down as everyone got used to the situation, ultimately becoming relegated to the occasional dirty joke from boys.
     
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    I think we've moved a little off from my original question. What I'm curious about is this statement:
    I want to know if you really think it's legitimate to let a legal act from 10, 20, or 30 years ago to destroy your present career.

    Should our expectation really be on the nascent professional from the past or today's audience?


    As for orgies, etc, I guess I'm one of those people that doesn't care what kind of consensual sex people have as long as no one is hurt. I wouldn't fire an employee for a personal hobby that they didn't intend to reach the office. If it so happens that it does, the blame doesn't shift to them; it shifts to those who can't handle the situation with maturity.
     
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    I doubt something like that would ever die down. Each new year would hear the rumour and they'd be able to verify it was true.

    Depends how it destroyed your career. If the students disrupt the class because of this porn incident, then the teacher is no longer able to do her duties, what is the school meant to do? The students aren't employees, you can't control them the same way you could in a work environment. Should she be fired? No, she hasn't done anything wrong legally. But it could destroy her career should she quit her job because she is being teased by students, and other schools wouldn't want to hire her because of the commotion she'd bring.

    Is it fair for such things to destroy your career? No, but sex scandals can destroy careers.

    I know, and I agree. I'm not disputing that - I'm just saying what happens in the real world.
     
  22. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    Well I'm glad your thoughts on the matter are clear.
     
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    Are they certain the video evidence wasn't something originating from Doppelgängers on Demand?
     
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    I missed the part where the teachers actions were specifically interfering with their ability to do their job.

    That's what this is about, right?
     
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