California governor seeks federal assistance

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-official-denies-oroville-dam-182825393.html
    CA has money for lawyers to protect them from trump but needs a handout from .............trump.
     
  2. bradl, Feb 14, 2017
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    Keep in mind that the Fed knew about this issue well prior to now.

    http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article132528514.html

    There's plenty of blame to go around for all of this; Reds, Blues, State employees, Army Corps of Engineers, the entire lot.

    EDIT: In fact, from the SacBee article:

    In short, Arnold's and Bush's lack of foresight led to Brown now having to get the help that could have easily been prevented 15 years ago.

    But let's not play politics, no?

    BL.

    P.S. I'm at the mouth of the Sacramento River; where the Feather river (which the Dam is on) empties out to. It really isn't looking good here, especially with the fact that there is more rain on the way by the end of the week.
     
  3. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    well actually it wouldn't be from "Trump", but rather from the taxes Californians pay......and since California is one of those states that sends more tax money to the federal government than the federal government sends back to the state......Jerry should double his request, just to even things up a bit :p
     
  4. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    this is PRSI, playing politics is the name of the game :mad:
    you are overlooking the fact we seemingly have money for OTHER things,
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/04/...tect-immigrants-from-trump-policies.html?_r=0
     
  5. bradl macrumors 68040

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    While blindly neglecting the dam.

    Note how nothing is ever really a problem, until the problem is imminent. Case in point: Was the dam a problem when we were in the throws of a 4 year drought?

    But immigration was a problem, hence the money going to that. Again, the problem here is that despite all the warnings around the issue, Arnold ignored it, the FERC ignored it, the Army Corps of Engineers ignored it, and Bush ignored it.

    BL.
     
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    So much for the "California Independence" succession movement.

    On the flip side, I doubt very seriously Trump takes the high road here and approves it...even though that's the easy thing to do.
     
  7. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    it's California money in the first place......no reason the state shouldn't be getting a fairer distribution of the Federal tax collection :p
     
  8. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    if it's CA money then why isn't CA holding on to the money?
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    climate change,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :p
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    California wanted to secede, they can ask their fellow Californians to pony up the cash.
     
  10. bradl macrumors 68040

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    If the federal government failed in their project, the federal government should spend their own damn federal money to fix their ****up.

    You wouldn't ask for anything less if a mechanic screwed up your car.

    BL.
     
  11. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    if CA is "paying" the feds and CA needs "money", then why do they have to ask the feds for "their" money in the first place?
     
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    After reading the article from the Bee it's clear California residents and their beloved environmentalists own this problem.
     
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    for years they knew & for years they did not care.
     
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    Let's answer that question with another question: Who built the dam? The feds, or the state? And on top of that, whose money paid for the dam? The Feds, or the State?

    Therein lies the answer.

    BL.
     
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    sure, let me know when that happens :D
     
  17. bradl macrumors 68040

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    From Wiki:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroville_Dam

    Environmentalists knew. They petitioned the government. The government did nothing except shrug them off. Now, the FERC is scrambling to fix the problem, while those same environmentalists are screaming "I told you so!".

    BL.
     
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    Why wasn't it constructed with armor in the first place? Cutting corners California? Then....you forgot to add this section. I wonder why. Oh wait. I know why.

    Run around pointing fingers. Your problem. Deal with it.
     
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    We are. As I said previously, there is more than enough blame to go around for everyone. Arnold, Bush, Brown, Warren, Davis, the entire lot. But to say that it is our fault, when clearly the Feds ignored the warnings on this 12 years ago is not true.

    BL.
     
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    California funded it, cut corners, ignored solutions....now it's someone else's fault. So typical.
     
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    Like I said, plenty of blame to go around. The feds had a hand in it. They ignored it. The state had a hand in it. they ignored it.Every state and federal administration going back to Lyndon Johnson ignored it. However, when the Feds get petition and they ignore it, that says a lot about the Feds as well.

    BL.
     
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    Maybe China will like to bump its investment in our infrastructure. With enough political blame-shedding and gridlock, all kinds of alternative solutions become possible... although perhaps not desirable.

    Fix the thing, print money to pay for it. Think of it as a foreign policy decision.
     
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    Thanks for linking the Bee article. It was worth reading and it showed how California created and failed to deal with it.
     
  25. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    It's YOUR fault since every year you send the Feds a check that they turn around and parcel out giving "taker" states more than they ever contribute! :p

    I suppose California could raise your own personal tax "contribution" if you'd prefer that the state never have to ask for a more equal distribution of federal tax receipts when emergencies arise
     

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