California Is Adding Gender Category 'X' to State IDs. Good—Your Gender Isn't the Government's Busin

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502a

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    http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/28/gender-x-option-on-california-state-ids
    interesting, what say you?
     
  2. s2mikey macrumors 68020

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    I say its idiotic, stupid, lame, useless and unneccessary. Did I miss anything? Are they !@#$% serious with this? Lets review:

    Penis = Boy
    Vagina = Girl

    You're welcome. :rolleyes:
     
  3. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Non-issue.

    The kind of thing that one year later, nobody would notice any difference and wonder what all the fuss was about.
     
  4. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Ontario did this as well. As long as it doesn't cost anything extra I think it's fine.
     
  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    So you're against it if it costs some money?

    How much will it take to switch your opinion?
     
  6. ThisBougieLife macrumors 68000

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    Good. I agree with the above. I see it as a non-issue. Something culture warriors will unnecessarily make a big stink about, but that's to be expected. The vast majority of people will keep the "M" or "F" and for the small number of people who can utilize the "X", it shouldn't be an issue as long as all their forms of ID match in this regard.
     
  7. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040

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    I can talk just for myself.
    A coffee might do on simple matters.
    On more complex matters, a couple of expensive beers. At the fourth, I am your best buddy.
     
  8. jerwin macrumors 68020

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    It'll cost a bit.
     
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    Finally, some recognition for Magneto and Wolverine...
     
  10. Rhonindk macrumors 68040

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    I have to think on this a bit. :confused:
    Your ID is for Identification.
    Your face, height, weight, age, address, hair color, eye color, etc .... How could your physical sex not be relevant?
    If they are going to do this, perhaps they need to rethink what ID really means and is used for.
     
  11. ThisBougieLife macrumors 68000

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    ^But some people do look very ambiguous. I'd guess that many people who would utilize this "X" would be those who are more androgynous in appearance. And really, if the ID features a photo of you, that's more conducive to IDing someone than an "M" or "F".
     
  12. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    They should just put XX or XY and save everyone the headache of guessing.
     
  13. Rhonindk macrumors 68040

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    Picture?
    Chuckle :D
    The pic on my Cali ID looks like I have just come off a three day bender and just awoke in the local cell. I tend to use my passport as it looks more like me when I travel ;)
     
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    ^Lol well my license photo was taken when I was 16 and suffering from intense baby face. :p And don't even get me started on my fake ID... ;)
     
  15. jerwin macrumors 68020

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    What? Like a preferred form of address? So as to prevent misgendering?

    (I used to be small and thin. other people routinely addressed me as "ma'am... I mean sir." Yeah. "go **** yourself")
    Okay.

    I'd like my ID to read "M'lord."

    As in, "M'lord, do you know why I pulled you over?"
     
  16. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    So you can't identify a person without seeing their junk?

    See, I'd rely on the name, height, weight, etc.

    YMMV.
     
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    Dang. When talking on the radio about a situation involving both a male and female, for clarity sake, the female is typically referred to as the “x-ray”. Wut to do now? Male, x-ray, null?
    --- Post Merged, Sep 29, 2017 ---
    When it comes to this YMMV is definitely in play.
     
  18. Rhonindk macrumors 68040

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    You are a bit shallow in thinking.
    If I am looking for a person or want to verify they are who they say, their sex is just another data point. If you want to exclude a data point, then you need to rethink the process and the data needed for that process.

    The "let's exclude a data point because it might offend someone somewhere" is ludicrous at best.
     
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    I have been for years.
     
  21. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040

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    Then I will be Z.
     
  22. chown33 macrumors 604

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    Go for it.
     
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    I'll agree with you to a point. If I were picking up person I never met before at the airport, it would help me identify them if I knew they were a man or a woman (so long as they adhered to cultural norms of how men and women typically present themselves.

    However, I can't think of any time I'd care whether their driver's license or birth certificate held an M, F, or X. (and btw, the 'X' just adds a data point, so for you fans of data points, I'd think that would be a bonus)

    If a police officer was looking for someone named John Doe, 52 years old, 6' tall, 200 lbs., brown hair, green eyes, and that officer found a person with an ID that said, "John Doe, 52 years old, 6' tall, 200 lbs., brown hair, green eyes," do you think they'd let that person go if they had an 'X' instead of an 'M'?

    Help me understand why the 'X' is significant here.
     
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    You forgot
    A##h)&#3 = A##h)&#3 :rolleyes:
     

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