California Parents Killed in Car Crash After Fleeing Ice Officers Who Mistook Father for Arrest Targ

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    It’s never a good idea to flee law enforcement. Anyone here think ICE is to blame for this?

    http://www.newsweek.com/california-...-after-fleeing-ice-agents-who-targeted-846139

    Six children have been left without parents after their mother and father were killed in a car crash in an apparent attempt to flee Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, who pulled them over after mistaking the father for an arrest target.

    Police in Delano, a city in Kern County, California, said 35-year-old Santo Hilario Garcia and 33-year-old Marcelina Garcia Profecto were both pronounced dead at the scene after officers arrived to find their SUV overturned after smashing into a power pole just before 7 a.m. on Wednesday.

    The United Farm Workers (UFW) labor union said the couple were farm workers, who were on their way to look for work to "provide for their six children." ...
     
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    Luckily, they didn’t crash into anyone else. The article didn’t say whether either of them was an illegal alien, though it is possible one or both were and were trying to avoid detection.
     
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    :( Sad news. What a waste. Desperate people do desperate things.
     
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    Neither do I. But Southern California Director of Immigrant Rights Jennie Pasquarella disagrees. From the article:

    "This incident demonstrates just how dangerous ICE's unlawful practices are to our communities," Pasquarella said. "This horrible tragedy is the direct result of ICE's inhumane tactics and the fear it provokes in hardworking people who stand to lose everything if they are deported."
     
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    This is sad but it's the same if anyone runs. If you run and cause an accident, the fault is yours for being so reckless.
     
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    I think she’s been drinking with Hillary.
     
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    Unlawful? ICE was doing their job. What was unlawful are the parents being in America illegally then running once pulled over. Also from your article, “Elzea also said Garcia had a criminal history, citing a DUI conviction from 2014.”
     
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    The couple was pulled over. If they obeyed law enforcement they would have had the opportunity to straighten out the misunderstanding, and they would still be alive. What part of the stop was inhumane? What tactic did ICE use to make them decide to flee?
     
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    This is very tragic and I’m grieved by this, but the UFW sounds absolutely ridiculous trying to pin this on ICE officers enforcing the law.

    I empathize with immigrants who come here to find work and make a better life for themselves, even the ones who come illegally. But we all need to be held accountable for our actions. Recklessly fleeing a traffic stop got this couple killed, not ICE.
     
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    Nope...

    Why would you run from our Government???

    Isn't this the group where a lot of people keep parroting, "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about"
     
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    Idiot opportunist.
    Way worded causes far more harm than solves. Should have simply said "the crackdown is causing fear in communities" and not blame ICE for simply doing their jobs, especially the misleading "unlawful practices "

    Idiots everywhere.
     
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    Right-o...seems like they might have had something to hide.
     
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    Very sad... 6 children now orphans. Hopefully they have family that can take them in, but I can’t imagine caring for 6 is easy.

    Once again this reinforces the first rule of ethics, don’t resist/run from the police. They may have been deported, but at least they would be alive.

    Thankfully the children are okay and no by standers we’re injured. I have no tolerance for people who drive dangerously or under the influence.
     
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    the only ones responsible were the parents for fleeing. stupid and sad at the same time.
     
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    Clearly this woman has no clue.
     
  19. Zenithal macrumors 604

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    No one's ever been successful in running from the police. Just stupid. Those six kids will now forever remember this incident.
     
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    All too often, children suffer the consequences of their parents’ decisions to enter the country illegally and then, once they are here, to do everything they can to avoid detection by law enforcement and possible deportation.
     
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    Which is why they should either stay where they are or immigrate by legal means.
     

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