Calls grow for a year of service to community

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  1. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    Maybe we’re not as divided as we think we are. Hanging out with each other elbow to elbow in something besides a crowded subway car for awhile definitely gives people a different perspective.

    If enough young people started taking one of the growing options for a year of service, we might all be better off than we are now, with so many hanging out on social media trying to sort out wno’s to blame for the rips in our country’s social fabric.

    I’ve seen more than a few pieces along the lines of the one I cite below. What do you think about a voluntary year of service to community before heading out to a career or college, or graduate school?



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    The main vehicle is the Service Year Alliance, a nonprofit coalition trying to encourage young people to dedicate one year to some kind of service. It envisions a time when asking a person, “Where are you doing your service year?” will be as ubiquitous as asking, “Where are you going to college?”

    The alliance launched in January, a merger of nonprofit groups that all worked in the service space, and it plans to fully start an awareness campaign to reach young people in the fall. As of now, the alliance has identified 65,000 different full-time, year-long opportunities for young Americans to do their year of service.
     
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    This could be very valuable to young Americans! In the UK they have the "Gap Year," which serves much the same purpose.
     
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    The rich man goes to collage, and the poor man goes to work.

     
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    Great Idea...

    Yet sadly those youths who would benefit most are deeply entrenched in the hip hop culture. Glamorous and Glorified from the dregs of the inner city all the way up to the elitist culture of Apple’s alliance with Hollywood Rap Moguls, it's a tough situation.

    Apple's once pristine morals have collapsed as they feature lyrics from songs like "Truffle Butter" so obscene they can't be written here.

    Selling drugs, pimping girls, wearing gold chains and carrying guns, nothing is off limits as long as Apple and big business profit from it. Even Hussein praises Jay-Z like he's a role model, yet I dare you to listen to the lyrics of his wife's music. It's a stellar example of hypocrisy at its finest. Exactly what appeals to the likes of Hillary herself.
     
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    ..and the poor people in the inner city who buy into this culture as reality who would benefit from some comuity service, before they are in orange jump suits picking up trash, won't benefit from it at all, because they can't afford to work for free.
     
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    You don't work for free... you get paid.

     
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    OK, sound good then.
     
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    This idea used to be called "civics". There were classes taught on it, and community meetings...was a good idea then, still a good one...
     
  9. LizKat thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Apprenticeships are coming back into vogue too, in the USA and around the globe. In the USA some apprenticeships are being coordinated between high schools and local industries.

    Such programs, like the ones in the USA and elsewhere mentioned below, provide training and a period of job experience as leverage into the related business sector, so you have both skills and experience to list on your resumé when you leave the place.

     
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    Isn't AmeriCorps, something Obama floated as being mandatory( Brownshirts )?, about the same thing?
     
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    Where does the money come from?

    Edit: Never mind I see
     
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    Regular corporations, nonprofits, colleges, etc. as well as existing state and federal grants programs. And yes, Americorps. Some programs are the traditional "corporate responsibility" efforts like having employees kick in time to help rehabilitate neighborhoods or teach skills to kids, some offer formal training for service w/ stipends and deferment of college expenses or loans, some fund jobs provided by local industry, there's a wide variety because the umbrella is big and getting bigger.

    Look into some of the many links offered under the Service Year Alliance umbrella I had mentioned in the OP, such as this one http://www.servicecorps.org/

    Service Year Alliance itself is the merger of a couple precursors and is having a formal launch this fall so probably will get some PSA and other mass media coverage. Can't happen soon enough if you ask me...
     
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    It'd be great it Judges would send Juvenile Offenders into this program.
     
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    Because all the ills of American youth started in the mid 80's? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Yah, wait, I thought it was back in the 1920s.
     
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    Already required in some US universities. It's needs to be managed well, though, to avoid naive efforts that are useless or counter-productive. When I was at university I did about 10-15 hours/week of community volunteer work and never regretted a single moment.
     
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    I know of plenty of people who are into country music and have never left their rural county that would greatly benefit from some sort of national service that would make them see and meet people from a different part of the country.
     
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    I've always thought this should be mandatory. Your choice of this or the military. Great real world experience.

    With those options in mind, judges can't mandate troubled youth to this kind of program any more than they can send them to the military. The military no longer wants them. A year of service program certainly isn't going to want to spend its resources fixing broken kids. The kids are supposed to be fixing the world.
     
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    I am against government forcing any kind of service, particularly compulsory military indoctrination. If private schools or other organizations want to, that's fine. We have choices. This is not a role government should be playing.
     
  20. LizKat thread starter macrumors 68040

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    A judge can offer someone before him a choice: drug court or the slam, for instance.

    Tnere's no reason a broken kid cannot help fix the world after (or while) he gets picked up and dusted off and shown a different way to operate.

    The umbrella of service alliance is pretty broad. An apprenticeship program is not the same thing as the situation where a college defers tuition in part for helping in some town-and-gown project like fixing up a neglected park or converting a vacant lot to a community garden.

    But these are two ways of creating community via introduction of people from different backgrounds to each other... in some way other than a fight on social media or a scuffle in a parking lot over a drug deal gone bad.

    There's no one size fits all in the newer approaches to year of service and community immersion ideas. Not even the timeframe of involvement is fixed. Sometimes it's a summer program, a couple weeks, six months, a year. Sometimes a participant is urged to contribute skills and time; sometimes encouraged to participate and learn, with an eye to breaking out of the dead end of no skills, no experience, no job opportunity. Either way who benefits is everyone. It adds up to putting a little bit of the "we" back in "we the people" in a constructive, choiceful way.

    Many of us still live in communities that are segregated ethnically or socioeconomically. Even in say Brooklyn, where you can have up to 15, 20 different ethnic groups resident in one "neighborhood", there can be isolation instead of community.

    We live in an era that in some ways has encouraged us to become more singular in focus than is really healthy for human beings, considering that we evolved as social critters. These ideas for a year of service, as well as programs that offer apprenticeships (and so, a resumé to take out the door into a more welcoming world), all offer ways of experiencing community in an age, particuarly in urban areas, where the older forms of neighborliness. mutual assistance to and enjoyment of each other may have fallen away.

    What we read about each other's "communities" is generally whatever media find to sell papers, so it's not often positive. The service alliances forming now offer ways to change that up, one kid, one adult at a time. I hope the idea keeps attracting more corporate and municipal and university support.
     
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    Service to your country shoudl be a part of the HS curriculum.
     
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    There are other genres aimed at the kids than just rap and all for the same reason: To make money off of them. Why do you hate capitalism?

    Also, Saddam Hussein has been dead for years, please get over it.
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    And higher college costs, students not wanting to learn or do even token participation, students already mired in debt (especially thanks to the great recession providing one heck of an impetus and for what should be obvious reasons), and so on, won't help any of the problems you rightly address.

    Help those who want to better themselves - that's not a socioeconomic divide as such. But in one form or another, maybe up to 100% of this country needs more help then others. Depends on the issue at hand.
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    Then why have a government, noting you would probably grow to hate the resultant anarchy very quickly... For example, government wants everyone to compete, which is why so many went back to college after the great recession began (jobs lost, people wanting to contribute since no degree=no job so it's more complicated than "entity x backing loans was the only reason costs went up" because we know that's manure given your own laws of "supply and demand"). But instead of sitting here telling us you're against everything (until it affects you at which point you'll look the other way in order to blame the same things, see the adverse side of "supply and demand" already mentioned), what are you for and how would you resolve today's problems? (No blaming others or personal attacks or changing my wording the way some insecure people around here like to, just give us what you think about situations and how those situations can be resolved. With facts, discussing both sides of the issue and as many nuances therein, and blaming nobody or taking anybody's words out of context or pretending some words were never put out.)
     
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    LOL, wut?
     

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