Calls to tax junk food gain ground

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  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Well- here we go. Seems the slippery slope argument does apply in certain cases. I knew this was coming. I guarantee this is going to happen soon.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-sci-junk-food-tax23-2009aug23,0,7345912.story

     
  2. MacNut macrumors Core

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    I don't see smoking reduced, the people that want to smoke are willing to pay more, the same with junk food. You can't stop peoples habits by charging more for it.

    Just call it what it is, the government wants more money.
     
  3. Tilpots macrumors 601

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    First Alcohol, then Nicotine, and now Sugar. What's next?

    My bet is on meat. The fattier the meat, the higher the tax.:eek:
     
  4. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Exactly. It isn't going to change anybody's behavior. It's about money.
     
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    If it gets the fatties to eat a little less, why not?
     
  6. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I knew of quite a few people who quite smoking because of the cost. These are the pack a day smokers and when they did they math they saw they could have over an extra $1000 of disposable income tax free made them quite.

    Extra $1000 straight to the bottom line is a quite a bit of money. It does work. The cost also keeps a lot of people from starting.
     
  7. MacNut macrumors Core

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    I know a lot of smokers and the taxes didn't deter them. Maybe they cut back but they didn't stop.

    Personally I think smoking is stupid but those that do it don't seem phased.
     
  8. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Actually, you are correct about that. That's why the gov is now going after junk food. They're actually losing money on cigarette taxes these days. Our own King Daley was upset that cigarette tax revenue was down this past year. I don't really know what he expected.

    But again, it's about bringing in money, not changing behavior- at least for the government.
     
  9. philamac macrumors regular

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    I was gonna say caffeine, but the large companies might lobby against that in fear of office buildings full of drowsy workers.
     
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    From what I remember it currently cost more in extra health care required directly because of cigarettes than the government gets off taxes. if everyone quite smoking yes tax revenues would drop but medical cost would drop even more so it still a win in the end.

    Maybe the tax would be good thing. make the people pay for the extra healthcare cost related to the junk food but on that same token I would would a tax decrease for doing healthy things like exercise. In the end it coudl work out to be win because a healthier population means less money that needs to be spent on health care
     
  12. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    It could, but I doubt it. And I'm wondering what will be next.
     
  13. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    Well, we gotta pay for this forthcoming UHC somehow. Can't keep going after the richies forever. I'm guessing this would hit the poorer folks harder since they're the ones more inclined to buy junk food.
     
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    The $.61 tax per pack on 1 April is what pushed me over the edge and made me quit. I was a pack and a half a day smoker so I would have been spending over $200 a month on cigarettes.

    For me and I think for most people, the extra tax is simply an added incentive to quit. I'm a Cheetos addict and a bag never lasts more than a day in my house. Having a substantial tax on Cheetos wouldn't make me give them up, but it would make me buy a smaller bag.
     
  15. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    However, how would we be guaranteed that these taxes got toward health care? I know the cigarette taxes in Chicago certainly don't.
     
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    Bring it on, as long as they don't tax diet sodas. Tortilla chips are easy to make, just some corn tortillas and a fryer.

    And I don't want to hear about how diet soda is "light on nutrition" - so is water. Are we going to hike taxes on that, too?
     
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    Good thing that no one who makes less than 250k will see their taxes increase.
     
  18. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    I don't know why you're comparing a campaign promise from Obama to a proposal made by Gov. Paterson and an idea held, but not proposed in any bills) by some members of Congress.

    The article is about changing attitudes of the American people. Why would you even mention anything about Obama's platform? :confused:
     
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    This is outrageous. First of all, what is the definition of "junk food"? Most people would agree that Cheetos and a snickers bar are junk food. However, I've noticed many of the "energy bars" sold in places like GNC contain just as much sugar.

    If the extra tax on junk food went toward reducing the price on healthier foods and making them available to poor people then I'd be more open.
     
  20. samiwas macrumors 65816

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    So, then what defines what is a "junk food" and what is not. Is a burger at McDonald's considered junk, while a burger at a fine restaurant is not? Is a Reese's Peanut Nutter cup junk, while fine chocolate is not? Where is the line drawn?
     
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    Besides your anecdotes, do you have anything to base the assertion that increased prices do not decrease tobacco consumption?
     
  22. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    It works for alcohol, so I don't see why it wouldn't work for tobacco or junk food:

    Article
     
  23. imac/cheese macrumors 6502a

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    I would hate to see the government try to determine what foods are bad enough to tax and which ones get passed over. That would be a lobbying fiasco.
     
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    We used to have a snack tax here in Maryland. The Frito Lay lobby had it quickly abolished.
     
  25. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    if consumption of junk food, tocacco, or alcohol add to our healthcare costs, then tax'em.....you want to eat, drink and smoke these things? Fine with me, indulge away, but we have to offset the healthcare costs somehow.
     

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