via facetime, yes
I was going to add this but you beat me to it.
T-Mobile only offers Wi-Fi calling because their network is pathetic and tiny. Companies like Verizon have no need for Wi-Fi calling since their network is so vast.
Is that why they offer $100 signal boosters?
TC, Verizon doesn't offer Wi-Fi calling, at least not yet. For now only T-Mobile and Sprint do. I remember AT&T was rumored to be implementing it a while back but so far they haven't yet either. Hopefully Verizon will get on it too. It's a good feature and it's free unlike those expensive signal boosters the carriers offer.
Is that why they offer $100 signal boosters?
TC, Verizon doesn't offer Wi-Fi calling, at least not yet. For now only T-Mobile and Sprint do. I remember AT&T was rumored to be implementing it a while back but so far they haven't yet either. Hopefully Verizon will get on it too. It's a good feature and it's free unlike those expensive signal boosters the carriers offer.
I'm just curious if it can, and if it can't, what makes tmobile able to do it?
For the brief time I had T-Mobile I enjoyed the Wi-Fi calling. It was like a built in signal booster, since I had poor coverage at home. I wouldn't mind seeing all carriers get this instead of selling boosters.
Yes exactly. There's really no argument for not having it. It's better for the consumer than a signal booster and it's free. I certainly would've loved to have it when Verizon told me I could cough up $100 for signal booster to address the 1 bar of 1X in my apartment despite the "excellent" service claimed by their maps. All the carriers should get in on it. There are still buildings where none of them do a good job of penetrating.
You can live in a major city and still live and work in a cell phone dead spot which is the reason for signal boosters.
Apple announces that iOS 8 will support Wifi calling and all of the sudden all the rest of the major carriers are suppose to support it??? I think NOT. None of you gave wifi calling a second thought before Apple announced it.
AT&T and Verizon WILL NOT support wifi calling because they don't need it!
in other words: WiFi calling would be very useful, regardless of the carrier you're on, or how "superior" you think it is to others. A signal booster is redundant and unnecessary when WiFi calling is available.
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I did. For the longest time I had an AT&T signal booster in my house, before I gave it up because it was so flakey and unstable that dealing with the normal weak signal was actually preferable. When I can, I just use FaceTime or FaceTime audio since it works on Wifi, sounds better and is more reliable than AT&T was.
And for non iOS/Mac users, WiFi calling would have, and would still come in real handy.
Fortunately, I've recently switched carriers and service is better now. Still doesn't mean I'm okay with no WiFi calling though.
Simply not true. As long as both carriers are selling signal boosters, you can't say that the carriers don't need any help in that regard. WiFi calling is cheaper to step up, and less of a problem to manage for both the user (who doesn't have to buy and set up anything extra) and the carrier (who doesn't have to install and maintain a back-end that tracks position and signal strength so boosters don't affect the rest of the network or broadcast out-of-license).
iOS 8 beta 3 w/ t-mobiles carrier update. It will still use minutes if you are on a tiered plan. You'll need to turn it on.
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From the best I know (not much) Verizon isn't offering it as of yet.
Aside from that you'll need an app to do so. Google number with the appropriate app is still an option for voice calls to anywhere.
Then like mentioned FaceTime audio works from Apple to Apple devices. Not a very good solution but works in a pinch.
That's a welcome addition for tmobile customers. So I take it SMS will work as well with wifi calling?
And if I tether my phone to a hotspot will it work?
I'm wondering how you know this as a fact.
As you know carriers charge based on location. Go abroad or to Canada and you are likely to encounter different call and roaming rates than nationally. Furthmore you can't take a network extended out of the country, it's not supposed to activate where the carrier does not have a footprint.
Wifi calling would have to be setup the same way, except it would have to use location services. The network extended can't be easier to setup: 1) unbox, 2) plug into router and 3) wait for all blue lights.
You can't assume that from an IT perspective, unless you have personally done the programming or managing the infrastructure, one is easier or harder to setup.
I'm not talking about out of the country, though that is an additional issue, that further illustrates my point.
Within the US though, the situation isn't so cut and dry either. Carriers have different licensed blocks of spectrum depending on where in the US you place that microcell you bought from them, requiring that the microcell know where it is and which frequencies it can and can't broadcast on. In some areas, a carrier will even even lack licenses altogether (this is where regional roaming partners come into play) and the cellular microcell isn't supposed to work there at all. All of this must be tracked using GPS. All of this requires back end equipment and support people to maintain.
OR, you could use WiFi calling. The spectrum is unlicensed, and the infrastructure isn't of any concern to the carrier as long as whatever it is, it works well enough to give a stable internet connection to the phone. The user doesn't need any additional hardware either. A GeoIP lookup would suffice to see if the users is on a US ISP and can get WiFi calling... IF the carrier cares about that (maybe they don't). Or if they want to be really strict, the profile could be set up to have the phone send back its GPS location before wifi calling is enabled. All using already-existing hardware.
And now, you too know why this is a fact.
Based on your wording, I actually think we're in agreement here? The network extender is not easier to set up than wifi calling for an end user. Even assuming it's as simple as the three steps you mention (it isn't... there are some additional activation steps required, meaning you need to talk to your carrier or use a not-so-easy website to get things going), those three steps are still more work than swiping an option in Settings to turn WiFi calling on in iOS 8.
That's not true at all. Femtofcells s have been hacked and their inner workings (and who and what they talk to) are quite well documented. You just need to be able to read.
That said, I will say that my past work experience was at a wireless carrier, and my current work experience remains in network infrastructure and architecture. And while WiFi calling isn't trivial either, I will say that operationally, it's less of a pain than dealing with seemingly randomly-placed, user-owned femtocells that broadcast on licensed spectrum.
No you may think we're in agreement, but you threw in some red herrings that are not germane to your original point.
VZW network extender is guaranteed to work within the United States.
How it works, I care not. Plug it in wait for blue lights and start using it. One, two, three. I could give a hoot what spectrum it operates on, that is for someone above my pay grade to figure out and it's been figured out in 2014. Done deal and you don't need wifi.
Days of hacking newer model femtocells have been over for a few years. Certainly nothing compared to mitm wifi attacks.
On other words unless you worked in the engineering dept of a major carrier
you really don't know what it takes to setup and support wifi calling.