Canadian Politicians

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by jnpy!$4g3cwk, May 3, 2012.

  1. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

    jnpy!$4g3cwk

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    I know, I know, stupidity knows no national boundaries, but, I always thought of Canadian politicians as just a little bit smarter.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17914504

    I think I'll skip Toronto the next time I'm in Canada ;)
     
  2. Stella, May 3, 2012
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    This is quite old, especially that last quote. Anyway.. Rob Ford dislikes anything that seemingly impedes his car driving. Ford is a bit of a red neck, IMO.

    Rob Ford doesn't work with council, he fights against them. Especially highlighted with the council voted for LRT lines instead of subway. Council tried compromising.. he would have none of it. Now he has no subway; a compromise would have resulted in some subway extension.

    The mayor is living in the past when it comes to public transit / cycling. While cities around the world are building up their bike lines, Ford is trying to remove them.

    Fear not, Toronto is still well worth a visit.
     
  3. Raid macrumors 68020

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    Well for what it's worth the bike lane he was talking about removing was on Jarvis, and it's still there as far as I know. His kitchen table ideas about city transit (that ignored professional advice from city planners) was defeated by city council and the Metro links plan is now back on track (but behind schedule now).

    I'm not a fan of Ford, and here in downtown Toronto I'm not alone. I don't know how we got this guy and Calgary got Naheed Nenshi... from past political leanings of both cities you'd expect they got reversed.
     
  4. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    If you haven't drove in Toronto it would be hard to comment on this, their bike lanes are actually just a normal street with an extra white line added to the right. So you have two lanes of traffic, parking on either side and about 3 feet of bike lane especially when the ttc is on the road. So you not only worry about parked cars opening their doors, but If they do your only option is to crash or go into oncoming traffic. It doesn't help that bikers don't follow the street laws and blow stop signs.etc.

    Bike lanes seem like an afterthought in the planning and they are dangerous in my opinion. As for driving in general, the ttc cars are more of a nuisance than bikers.
     
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  6. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    Is Chris 310 pounds?? :eek:

    Big who-rah going on today, with him threatening a reporter, on public land at the rear of his home.

    He wants to buy the parkland behind his property, so the the hoi palloi can't walk by his back fence and see him eating BBQ.
     
  7. Iscariot macrumors 68030

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    I'm not usually one to stoop to personal attacks, especially in politics. But there comes a point where a decision is beyond misguided, beyond partisanship, beyond ideology, beyond logic, reason, or sanity. There comes a point where there simply is no question beyond "are you really, in fact, that ****ing stupid?"

    That's a question that needs to be seriously levelled at anyone who thought that voting for Rob Ford was even a reasonable idea as a joke.

    His track record as an incompetent doofus even before becoming mayor is incredibly clear. Notwithstanding that, a simple look at his wikipedia entry would reveal a DUI charge, drug charge, racism, public drunkenness, and getting thrown out of a hockey game for all of the above (and attempting to lie his way out of all of the above as well). And that's just what is listed on the wikipedia page: there's an even longer list of past misdeeds with a little googling. The school board asked him to stop coaching football after he allegedly roughed up a kid, he's on tape talking about trying to help someone "score" oxycontin, he was charged with assaulting and threatening his wife (dropped), slurs about gays and AIDs, racial slurs against fellow councillors, and so forth. What in the hell else would you possibly expect from this man as mayor?
     
  8. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    He is, without doubt, the consummate bully.

    And his older brother is his enabler.
     
  9. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    How do you feel about the way the bike lanes are setup? Look at college, the bike lane is basically a parking lot with 3 ft of lane left (if someone didn't park like a moron). I'm not sure if you drive (I don't anymore) but I have to agree with Ford on the issue of public transit being underground, street cars create congestion that even buses would relieve slightly. You stop both lanes of traffic so that people can pile onto the street car instead of one lane with buses or no lanes with subway.
     
  10. Stella, May 4, 2012
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    According to Ford's election platform subways would have been no problem since new subways were possible at no cost to the tax payer because investors were waiting to fund them...

    It sounded pie in the sky during the elections... yet a vast portion of the population actually believed him.
     
  11. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

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    I've always seen him more as a Newt Gingrich.

    Without the good looks, athletic build, reasonable policies, charm, class and dignity.

    Or to put it in one (printable) word: he's a thug.
     
  12. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    I'm quite surprised that you guys have politicos like him. I've always thought of Canadians as socialist euro-transplants lol.
     
  13. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Harper is a conservative and has a majority government, they just aren't wackadoos like in the US.
     
  14. Raid macrumors 68020

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    I agree that bike lanes in some places are an after thought here, I don't bike much in the downtown core (I still value my life for some reason) so I can't really tell you how useful they are as a bike rider . As a driver though, I use Jarvis and Mount Pleasant to get north of the downtown core (mind you not lately) after the bike lanes were put in I barely noticed a timing difference running almost the entire length of Jarvis. To me it was no big deal and the bike riders seemed to like it so I was cool with it. I'm not sure what part of College you reference, here at work (Bay and College) there's not much problem at all with traffic, but I can bet it gets worse around UofT and Spadina.

    The issue with street cars vs subway is one of cost effectiveness and city planning. Metrolinx is using light rail transit (or street cars, or the cooler acronym LRTs) because the dollars spent for people served is much higher. Dedicated street car lanes like St. Clair are also going to be implemented more and more to combat the conflict between car, LRT, and pedestrian.

    Subways are nice but, really, really expensive. The Sheppard line (btw which should have been the Eglinton line before politicians got involved) cost the city $500 million a station! It's poor planning and spending like that from our politicians that keeps Toronto from being a world class city IMHO. ... and I don't expect Ford would ever understand that.
     
  15. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    Yeah you guys are lucky as we either have to pick between crazy unlimited spending lefties or righties who are more concerned about gay marriage/birth control rather than helping fix the economy.
     
  16. iJohnHenry, May 4, 2012
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    I think this comes under the "most of the people, some of the time".

    For locals, did you see the Editorial Cartoon in today's Toronto Star.

    This is going to be much fun yet. :D
     

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  17. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    The street cars will be fine for now up north, but with future growth you are going to end up with a mess, even with the subways in place which people are packed like sardines during rush hour the street cars are still overloaded.

    As for the bike trails, I was talking about the areas from spadina to landsdowne, since they allow parking on either side its like a bike death trap. I actually like biking, but I don't have a death wish.

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    The people here seem to do a better job at keeping the politicians in check. I've heard quite a few of the NDP politicians and even though I don't agree with some of their ideas they still seem like down to earth people.
     

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