Captain Marvel movie Cap's an enormous story arc, a masterpiece.

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  1. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    Captain Marvel movie Cap's an enormous story arc, a masterpiece.

    Just saw Marvel last night. A good movie as one should expect from a Marvel story.

    But I get the subliminal message the movie was making, unlike some who think it was a betrayal of virtuous and moral citizens to the rigid machinery of real military.
    That author misses the point. In Captain America we know Steve Rogers back story in more detail (scrawny kid with moral ideas bigger than himself). With Carrol Danvers it is by snapshots, tiny vignettists, and adoration of a friend and her daughter.
    But the same sense of fairness and strength are there.

    Remember that Rogers entered the US Army (at that time the Air Force was part of the army, the USAAF), and his uniform was boldly emblazoned with red, white, and blue, and Caps shield center has a white star in a blue circle, same as the markings on USAAF aircraft.

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    Captain Marvel's entire suite is boldly emblazon in red, white, and blue, based on the colors of the USAAF logo (and my avatar image which I have used for years for another reason). She does not need a shield, because she IS the shield (and I guess a member of S.H.I.E.L.D. too).

    And if what I think will happen in "Avengers: End Game" will happen (please, no spoilers), then all the more for the colors.

    For all differences between the two Captains, there are as many parallels and continuity.

    After all, both Captain America and Captain Marvel were created out of American patriotism and thus uniquely patriotic, and yet are far bigger than America itself.
    Marvel Studios, IMHO, hit the mark with the message.

    Looking forward to "Avengers: End Game", and see if what I suspect the story arc will do.


    (side note: Wonder Woman originally was emblazoned with very bright red, white, blue colors, but was massively toned down for the movie. Funny given who was involved in making it).
     
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    I suppose that this movie story is stand alone, not requiring being vested in Avengers?
     
  3. PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Being the first Capt Marvell, it is.
    A few MCU detail may not be understood, but will not affect watchers.

    Just you wait, though.
    Once Avengers: Eng Game comes out there will all week marathon watchers!
    22 movies in MCU, over 2 days of non-stop epilepsy inducing action.
    Cocaine has met its match.
     
  4. Mac'nCheese, Mar 17, 2019
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    No need to be vested because its really a prequel. There's more enjoyment if you know certain things because you can have the AHA! moment of when certain events will tie into what you've already seen. Its like watching episode 1 of star wars before episode 4.


    So Carol apparently has no family or friends other than the woman in the film, no parent's house to stop by and say hey I'm not dead?

    Also, how did she and the other aliens land on earth so much faster than her team? Why didnt they need a jump point?

    And how long was the Kree acting as Fury's boss?
     
  5. PracticalMac, Mar 18, 2019
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    Answer to @Mac'nCheese questions, under spoiler

    Carol did have parents, but did not get along with them, became distant. She mentioned it.
    I assume Carol was strong headed and rebellious, thus her strong independent streak. Sought friends as adoptive family? The Ramdeau family is her family.

    The Skrulls (sp?) kidnapped her from her Kree team and was over C-53 (earth) when she escaped. It is assumed she was their prisoner for some time before she regained consciousness.
    Her Kree team was far away (time/distance) when she made her first call to them.

    Skrulls are shifters, not Kree.
    Skrull leader at some point saw Fury's boss, kidnapped him (he said I think), assumed shape, and infiltrated SHIELD.

    No obvious plot holes, solid movie.

    Something that may be an "injoke".

    C-53 is code given to earth in movie.
    C in USAF is code for Cargo aircraft, transports.
    C-53 is a variation of the DC-3 Dakota aircraft.
    The nickname for C-53 is "Skytrooper".
    Hummmmm.

    vvv Skytrooper vvv
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  6. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68040

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    So where is Fury's boss this entire time and won't he need some explanation when he's back? Also, why would Fury's boss have the same voice that the Skrull had?
     
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    I think the Skrull can mimic the voices of those whose bodies they assume. We saw this when one of them turned into a surfer and still had his normal voice, and then later, he was doing the surfer's voice.

    What got to me is that the Skrull infiltrated Shield, but wasn't Hydra also still embedded in shield at the time? In Winter Soldier, they seemed to have been resting in Shield since their initial defeat in the first Captain America.
     
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    Right so he is speaking in the voice of Fury's boss but he keeps speaking like that when he is back in his own form, even when he is with his wife. He should be back to his own voice. The Hydra thing I guess so but I get a little confused with a lot of stuff like that. Maybe they were so deep uncover, like sleepers, they wouldn't have doen anything that the Skrull would have noticed.
     
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    …that Fury's boss had the same voice as the Skrull impersonating him; Bossman had an American accent, but the Skrull all seemed to have Australian/New Zealand accents, right? I could've sworn they were different voices.

    As for the Hydra thing, I was mainly wondering why no Hydra agents wondered why the Skrull doppelgangers suddenly forgot about Hydra, but your sleeper idea might explain that.

    God, our posts must be so boring for people who've yet to see Captain Marvel.
     
  10. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68040

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    Oh ok, I thought they sounded the same but maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. Honestly, I felt the movie was kind of boring.
     
  11. PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030

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    well...

    The actor is Ben Mendelsohn, becoming famous in the Sci-Fi world (Star Wars, Ready Player One), and did a faaaan-tastic King George VI in Darkest Hour. He is an Ozzy, but had become really good at voices. In the Marvel he actualy used his natural Ozzy voice when playing Talos, the Skrull leader that changed into Fury's boss.

    Marvel was good, the 80% for Rotten Tomato's is about right. Being a kind of Prequel, it constrains some creativity.
     
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    Well I saw it and really enjoyed it, even if it is sort of a set up for Infinity War: Endgame

    I hope tow thinga: that Captain Marvel if she does end up being the one that defeats Thanos that it isn't done easily. "Aim for the head" type thing. I really hope the Flerken Goose doesn't end up eating Thanos - just kidding about that but I have my suspicions based on what @PracticalMac said

    All in all a fun film, and yea one for the girls now. My niece will love it if she hasn't seen it already.
     

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