Caught by police downloading...

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    Damn guys....

    Long story short, the nephew of a friend of mine was visited by police and arrested. He is 24 years old and lives in Florida. He downloaded a bunch of stuff, like 9 movies illegally 3 months ago. He went to Boston for 3 months, after returning to his place, a week alter the police came. It seems that between the things he downloaded was underage porn, he actually deleted them before but it was downloaded.

    He had to pay a bail of $17K and because he seems to accept he did it when the police was at his place, is a confession and he might get from 1 to 2 years in prison. Damn! He was downloading anime movies.

    So many people doing disasters around here. hHe just got the unlucky number. Guys be careful, your service providers are not your friends.
     
  2. Scepticalscribe, Dec 15, 2015
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    Well, anime movies are one thing, - which would possibly mean that this is an issue of copyright - but downloading underage porn is quite another matter entirely, I would have thought. Indeed, it strikes me that this is possibly what prompted the police visit if they were investigating such matters.
     
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    "Downloading anime movies"??? Yeah, that's the story he wants you to believe, that sicko is an offender and you know it. Everything else is a smokescreen.
     
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    Make comments with maturity.
     
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    To be honest, if he was downloading underage porn, then, I fail to see how this can be viewed as an issue of lamenting how one's 'service providers are not your friends' or argued away as a question of 'how he just got the unlucky number'.

    Underage porn, or the digital footprints of same, if attempts were made to remove it, were not on his computer by accident.

    And, if this is what he was doing - and I must admit that I share the general doubt about whether he was merely downloading anime movies, or was innocently ensnared in having stashed caches of this stuff on his computer - it is not simply illegal, - and rightly so - but is a repugnant action deserving of moral scrutiny and legal sanction if proven.

    The fact that the police arrived on his doorstep when they did suggests to me that this is a matter which may have been under investigation for some time. As such, it is likely that it may have been co-ordinated and planned as I imagine that your friend's nephew was hardly alone in his membership of whatever circle or group shared this repellant stuff.
     
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    Maturity? As in the opposite of what your sex offender friend likes?

    I have devoted a part of my life going after scumbags like your friend and I have yet to meet anyone "accidentally downloading" child pornography that did not do so willingly.
    Your friend did not get unlucky, he got caught and now is trying to play the victim card. And you are here trying to defend it by playing the he just downloaded anime schtick. There is no such thing as inadvertent/unintentional/accidental child porn download. That douchenozzle that was hawking Subway sandwiches tried that ignorance play and it did not end well.

    And the fact that your friend accepted the wrong doing without going to trial is very telling. A conviction at that level is life altering and would label you for the rest of your life and one from which you cannot recover. I could understand if he downloaded MacKeeper and got screwed because he was monumentally stupid, he just thought he would not get caught.
     
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    Yeah, super strange.
    The thing is that my friend, his aunt is totally transparent about the issue with me. She was my neighbor since literally I have memory, since I was 3 probably. We haven't spoke like in 5 years and I just got the story from someone else and she was telling me everything as is. If he was trading porn she would have tell me or uploading bunch of movies.

    My surprise is that there are so many people doing that, I know people who are selling drugs and mushrooms and pimps and escorts. I have been even at the FBI giving information about drug lords and every single one of them still walking around with no problem. And this guy, does something that can happen to anybody and he get arrested like this.

    Is like if you go to an ISIS facebook page and you leave a comment saying: Viva Ala! or something like that. And now you are a terrorist and send to Guantanamo (even Guantanamo does not exist any more), you see? Super strange.

    Probably he could got away with it if he kept his mouth shut but it seems he made it super worse.
     
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    It is amazing how people like you talk like you do over the internet and never face to face. Bullies like you only have drives full of porn. Go with your cheap speech somewhere else.

    And what part of your life you have devoted to what? show something, show me evidence of what you are saying.
     
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    Yeah, I'm sure he is just a victim of circumstance.
     
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    You mean much like the evidence that the police have on your accidental child pornographer buddy?
     
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    Show evidence that you have been doing something "half of your life" about the issue. Come on, I am waiting. Or are you just full of it?
     
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    ...This...there is already considerable amount of evidence and an established pattern of behavior regarding the suspect. A strong case is already in play and they just needed to make an arrest.
     
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    The boy's aunt may have been 'totally transparent' with you, - and this may well be what she believes - but, to be honest, I strongly doubt that he was 'totally transparent' with her.

    This stuff did not appear on his computer by inadvertent accident.


    With respect, @ProjectManager101, you started the thread. Given the subject matter, you can hardly be surprised that virtually every reply has expressed firm doubts as to the story peddled by your friend's nephew.

    Some who have replied may have expressed their doubts in more robust terms than others, but, rather than taking issue with their exasperated tone, - which is what your posts seem to suggest - you might ask yourself, and your friend, whether you, and she, really are of the opinion that her nephew is a victim here.

    Because - to be quite honest - nobody who has replied to you - myself included - considers that likely in the circumstances. This stuff does not appear in computers by accident.
     
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    Kiddie porn = Prison and having to register as a sex offender I'm good with that.
     
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    Seems like your nephew's IP traveled into an internet surveillance zone. I would say the ONLY defense would be, you don't know what you're downloading until you download it. Also seems like his guilt got the best of him. NEVER talk, confess, or agree with accusations until you have a lawyer present. And anime movies .... REALLY??? You can't be charged for sex crimes due to cartoons. And since anime is mostly foreign material, they would not likely charge him for piracy.
     
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    Most likely the cops (whether local or federal LE) went to your nephew's home with a search warrant. Deleted porn is forensically recoverable. Animated child porn can be prosecutable. This plus access to under-aged females in the home with him is a fast track for a visit. If you're relying on what your aunt told you and what he told her....well...sure. Good job to the cops.
     
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    Why would that be? It seems like that doesn't hurt actual kids and provides a way for people who are born with that orientation to get their urges out without actually hurting someone.

    That said I highly doubt that he was just going for animated stuff, and it's probably a good thing he got arrested. I also really wouldn't believe his story, although I probably would believe that that is what he told his Aunt. There are cases where someone used an open wifi network to download child porn and the owner of the network is the one who got caught despite not knowing what was going on, but from how you said he acted I don't see that being the case here.
     
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    One theory is that the use of animated child porn is to groom and desensitize children making them more vulnerable.
     
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    Looks to me like he said the guy downloaded it, not that he created it. It could be libelous to call him a "pornographer" in this case.
     
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    Hm. Pray tell, and what exact term would you use to describe someone who downloaded such material?
     
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    Hm. This is an angle that hadn't occurred to me.
     
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    just curious, why download when you can simply stream? gazillion free porn sites out there.

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    I sympathize with you. Nobody wants a close relative being caught with child porn. But I think that the most interesting aspect of this is how humans rationalize different reactions depending upon the perceived closeness of the offender.

    When it's your relative, he just got the unlucky number. If it's someone in your neighborhood, throw the book at him. If it's on the other side of the political divide, then it's a sign of everything that's wrong with those people.

    We so locked into our personal alliances, agendas and tribes that we don't see (or simply accept) that our reaction depends on the relationship we have with the accused, as much as it does that act they may have committed.
     

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