Charles the Trucker Defends Joe the "Plumber"

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by todd2000, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. todd2000 macrumors 68000

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    This is just too funny, these people are just idiots. This is from The Michelangelo Signorile Show on Sirius. To quote his blog:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZZe-0GHDc4&eurl=http://www.signorile.com/
     
  2. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Is anyone else sick of hearing republicans refer to taxes as "a punishment"?

    Isnt the GOP the big patriotic party? Whats more patriotic than funding the country you love so much?

    :confused:
     
  3. todd2000 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Besides Michelangelo's right, IF, and thats a BIG if, he makes $250,00 a year as a truck driver, he should pay higher taxes.
     
  4. lostfan916 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm watching the news and apparently Palin addressed someone at her rally called Ed the dairyman.

    This is getting annoying...:rolleyes:
     
  5. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Oh no I realize that guy was full of ****, but I noticed he (along with many/most anti tax ppl) use "tax punishment" for reasoning. Along with the general agreement that the GOP is the party that wears its patriotism on its sleeve, something just doesnt add up.

    Whoever that radio guy is hes a freaking hero! Completely destroyed that guys arguments with facts and logic.
     
  6. LumbermanSVO macrumors 65816

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    It is very much possible for a single guy with a single truck to make $250k in revenue. But once you subtract all the costs the guy will be netting anywhere from the mid 20's to $70 or $80k depending on how well he runs things. I suspect he will be doing just fine under an Obama tax plan.
     
  7. todd2000 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I wasn't disagreeing with you :). As for the Host it's Michelangelo Signorile, he is on Sirius Weekdays from 2-4 (replays on weekends) on OutQ channel 109 (yes the gay channel :))
     
  8. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Well, im out on that seeing as I dont listen to radio at all.

    How can a channel be gay? and who cares?

    hypothetical: Seems to me the guy that called was a republican, why would he ever listen to a gay channel!?:eek: Shouldnt he have been cursing and throwing holy water in its direction? lol
     
  9. todd2000 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Oh well

    It's a Gay themed channel on Sirius Satellite Radio, and I care because I am (gay that is)

    ROTFLOL!! :D
     
  10. synth3tik macrumors 68040

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    Hi, I'm Eric the unemployed engineer. I am worried that under McCain more of these jobs will be shipped off. Currently under the Bush administration the only place for someone like me to get a job is in the defense market, but the defense market is filled with other engineers also trying to find work.
     
  11. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    And to keep the defense market growing there needs to be war.....

    Who has stakes in defense companies again? oh right.....

    I think we need this country to head in a new direction for our goods, we could be great for technology if we make the transition right.
     
  12. BengalDuck macrumors regular

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    I'm voting for Obama, registered democrat and all that...


    ...but three minutes of railing on a former serviceman about why he shouldn't get medical care? get a better ****ing argument. i am so far from rah-rah u.s. military and all that but i have the upmost respect for those who served, even if it was stateside at a military base. there are better arguments for why everyone should be able to obtain more affordable health care than "well, you get it for free! so maybe if you paid for someone else, then we would all be better."

    The radio host kind of upset me. Can he really not coherently speak to someone with a dissenting opinion? He was baiting him, and hell, failed himself to properly defend his argument.

    I'll probably get killed in this thread for posting this but I did not feel like that was a good example of how one person's naivety (or ignorance, depending on what you want to call it) is cured by another's informative, fact-based and well-construed arguments.
     
  13. it5five macrumors 65816

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    Right, agreed. He'll be completely fine under Obama.

    I just don't think that guy understood what taxable income meant.
     
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    I understand where you're coming from, BengalDuck, but if you listen, the jock was trying to talk to him reasonably for the first several minutes. But the guy 1. Didn't want to do anything but spout right-wing talking points, and 2. Wasn't equipped to have a real war of intellect.

    After trying several times to get the guy to understand that what he was saying didn't make sense and give him an opportunity to revamp his argument, he gave up and made him feel as ridiculous as he sounded.

    No sympathy here, but maybe I'm just sick of people wanting their entitlements, while claiming anything for anyone else is socialism. :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm still an undecided voter and will be waiting to make my decision once I've heard from Joe Six-Pack, Joe College, Average Joe, Cuppa Joe and Joe Blow.
     
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    Ive said it before, and I will say it again. Most people realize that taxes need to be paid. BUt not all people realize we pay too much already and that what is being collected is largely misspent. The solution is not more taxes, but but a re-examination of how the current taxes are spent.
     
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    Listen again. He isn't saying Charles shouldn't get free medical care, he focusses on that to point out that Charles' stance is hypocritical.
    This is a good argument. For a start the amount of taxpayer money that has been shovelled into the pockets of Halliburton and Blackwater now runs into billions. How much healthcare would that have paid for?
     
  18. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    see I find that statement hard to believe since there is a shortage of engineers across the boards.
    The unemployed part is believable but the 2nd part is not.
    There are more engineers leaving the field than there are to replace them. Along with a huge experience gap it is a very good chance to move up.....
     
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    Only thing this "Joe the Plumber" thing did for me was open my eyes up to Obama's "I think it's good to spread the wealth around" statement to Joe.

    He lost my vote with that one.

    :D
     
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    Are you serious?
     
  21. todd2000 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Exactly! He (Michelangelo) even says "Personally I believe you should get the medical care" but the guy is being a hypocrite, he doesn't want to pay taxes even though he supposedly makes 250,00 + a year in Taxable Income, but he is more then willing to use OUR tax payer dollars to pay for his medical care, that he can afford on his own.

    And yes I believe former servicemen should get medical care, but this guy was just being stupid.
     
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    We've been cutting taxes for the wealthy under the supply-side governance styles, and as a result the past 40 years of real economic gains have gone almost exclusively to the upper classes.

    Tax policy under the GOP has meant policies that lead to unnatural concentration of wealth. If someone wants to come along and level the playing field (not level the players, mind you) it could give us some real rejuvenation of the middle class.
     
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    Completely, sorry. Who is he going to "spread" my money around to and why?

    I'd be more for giving real tax cuts to the middle class.
     
  24. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Obama has promised a tax cut for 95% of working people. That benefits you.

    Taxation, no matter who does it, is redistributing wealth. Much of it comes back to you in the form of improved infrastructure. Republicans have been practicing wealth redistribution for decades. Sadly, it goes to corporations.

    We're in deep ***** financially as a country. That's what we're all voting on. Can you really tell me McCain has shown you anything in the past 6 weeks that says he's capable of handling it or that he has any real plan?

    EDIT: I'm watching him right now spouting his asinine plan to buy mortgages and give the banks who got us into this mess full value for the paper. I'm sure these same banks will make a killing on the refinance as well.
     

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