Chavez gets protested.

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by coffey7, Nov 7, 2007.

  1. coffey7 macrumors 6502a

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    This guy Chavez is a punk. He is not so loved like everyone thinks. He put my friends parents in prison for nothing. If He would let the real truth come out about his dictatorship people would learn the real deal about him

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071108/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_protest

    My friend stayed with my family when he was going to school in the USA. When he tried to call his parents one day he found out they were in prison. The were both school teachers that had a very large amount of money. People with money are not on the side of a guy like Chavez. In his country all the money should be his. If you start a business he takes it over. Plus he closes down the media so you can't speak out against him. Kind of reminds me of Hitler when he started out.
     
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    He's seems to have a grasp on the slang of the thirties,it must be nearly that long since the use of "punk" was current.
     
  4. xsedrinam macrumors 601

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    Not beating the Chavez drum, but there were not a few extremely corrupt and extremely wealthy Venezolanos who fled to other places like Miami to avoid both questionable/volatile political changes and any accompanying scrutiny of their acquired wealth in order to protect their assets and nepotistic, class advantage. Personally I find their ilk offensive, even more so.
     
  5. Agathon macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah right.

    I bet they deserved it.
     
  6. Queso macrumors G4

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    Sounds suspicious already :p
     
  7. solvs macrumors 603

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    Where were you in my Pakistan thread. Same type of thing. You'd think you'd be equally as pissed. Or is it only with those who've hurt someone you care about?
     
  8. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    Venuezula did this to themselves and now they're going to suffer for it. Hopefully this will serve as an example to their neighbors.
     
  9. saltyzoo macrumors 65816

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    People defending a dictator while saying the US administration is completely despotic. A lot of you really need to see what the real world is about. I've got chills.
     
  10. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    But, he's screwing the "rich" to help the poor. To some in this forum, that makes him a socialist, Robin Hood like hero with just a few warts. Obviously not near as dangerous as Darth Cheney and Ming the Merciless Bush. At least Chavez wants socialized medicine, so he can't be that bad. He at least cares for the children.:rolleyes:
     
  11. Queso macrumors G4

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    Chavez isn't a dictator. He was democratically elected twice and has since won a recall vote. The opposition isn't banned, it just chooses not to participate in elections, probably because it knows it will just get humiliated. Maybe those who live and vote in Venezuela understand a bit better what a dictator is than someone in the USA, having actually lived under the rule of Perez.
    Are they multiplying? :p
     
  12. saltyzoo macrumors 65816

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    Wow. Wear blinders much?

    You can't suspend the constitution and not be a dictator.
     
  13. Queso macrumors G4

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    Read the OP's linked article. Chavez is seeking to amend the Venezuelan constitution, but only if a referendum of the Venezuelan people gives him the authority to do so. That's a long way short of suspending the constitution, as the dictator Musharraf has done in Pakistan.
     
  14. saltyzoo macrumors 65816

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    LOL wow.
     
  15. Queso macrumors G4

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    Care to let us into just how you arrive at that conclusion? Or would that be too much to ask?
     
  16. saltyzoo macrumors 65816

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    If only you were so open minded about out own President.

    I can only imagine you'd all be saying the same thing if Mr. Bush used his executive powers to force a change to the constitution to allow him to stay in power.

    Good Lord.
     
  17. it5five macrumors 65816

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    To the OP, I know you've told us many times before about your friends parents who were school teachers and thrown in jail.

    But this is the first time you have told us they were very wealthy. Now, I'm sorry, but even teachers in the United States aren't wealthy, so I have a hard time believing your friends parents had acquired their wealth legally. If that is the case, then they deserve to be put in jail.

    Like xsedrinam had said earlier, there are some Venezuelans that left the country when Chavez was elected, in order to protect their illegally acquired wealth and to hold on to their class status, rather than face repercussions for their acts.

    I have no sympathy for your friends parents.
     
  18. Queso macrumors G4

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    What you still don't seem to be getting is that Chavez is asking for this change, not forcing it. If Bush asked the same, it would be up to the American people to decide whether or not it was a good idea.

    If the Venezuelans don't want the changes enacted, and it seems by the protests that quite a few of them don't, then Chavez will lose the referendum and the changes will not go through. It's that simple.
     
  19. it5five macrumors 65816

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    Chavez isn't forcing a change to the constitution. He is allowing the Venezuelan people to VOTE on a change to the constitution. If the Venezuelan people want to change it, that is their decision, not yours.

    Also, the changes to the Venezuelan Constitution wouldn't make Chavez president for life; it would remove term limits. While I don't quite agree with that, it is a far cry from what you and other capitalists are accusing Chavez of doing.

    Chavez is extremely popular among the Venezuelan people. The opposition parties don't run in the elections because they know that. Nothing is stopping them from running, except for the fact that life for the average/poor Venezuelan is many times better now under Chavez, and they'd have nothing to run on.
     
  20. saltyzoo macrumors 65816

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    Yep, an ex-military leader is just "asking" please, may I rule you FOREVER!?

    And nobody runs because they know they'd lose. LOL Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? Please, just step back and think about it.
     
  21. it5five macrumors 65816

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    I think you're the one that needs to step back and look at it.

    Chavez is putting the vote to the Venezuelan people. You don't seem to understand this. If the Venezuelan people don't want the new Constitution, they won't vote for it.

    Off topic, but what do you think of Musharref?
     
  22. Queso macrumors G4

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    He's asking for the possibility of standing for presidential election beyond the current maximum, but he still has to be elected to rule, and each term will still end in another election where he may or may not get re-elected. Hardly "FOREVER!?".

    And yes, he's just asking. This man is no Hitler, however the American right-wing like to spin it.

    Oh and BTW, I love the way being "ex-military" is a bad thing in a leader for you ;)
     
  23. j26 macrumors 65832

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    Bush should be fine then :)
     
  24. Queso macrumors G4

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    Yep, but he wouldn't have voted for evil George Washington. No Sirree :D
     

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