Chimera Default at MWSF?

brandon6684

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There was a lot of features put into Chimera in December. The widget set was also changed to look more like something Apple would make. Since the chimera developers have really been trying to get people testing nightly builds, mostnatably the December 20 build that is almost like and unofifcial RC, maybe 1.0 is on the horizon. I think it's a good bet that Chimera will be included as the default in OS X when it hits 1.0, the question is, will tit happen before MWSF?
 

bluecell

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My guess is that Steve Jobs will show even more defiance against M$ than last year's Macworld in NY. I think that it's a pretty fair assumtion that Chimera's Navigator will be the next default browser for MacOS X. Apple didn't hire David Hyatt for nothing and he's obviously been busy with the Chimera builds.
 

FattyMembrane

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the answer is NO. chimera will not be the default at mwsf. chimera is only at .6 and apple would not ship an os/computer with beta software (other than the iapps of course :D ). will they use for viewing web pages? almost definitely, but a new browser will not become the default until a new system ships which means 10.3 (and chimera should be at least 1.0 by that time). dave hyatt is not working on chimera anymore, as a matter of fact, he is working on the help viewer. however, the help viewer is just an html renderer and considering that sherlock posseses both html rendering capabilities and applecare information (why not help too), apple could be working on some kind of web-browsing addition to sherlock.
 

bluecell

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Originally posted by FattyMembrane
the answer is NO. chimera will not be the default at mwsf. chimera is only at .6 and apple would not ship an os/computer with beta software (other than the iapps of course :D ). will they use for viewing web pages? almost definitely, but a new browser will not become the default until a new system ships which means 10.3 (and chimera should be at least 1.0 by that time). dave hyatt is not working on chimera anymore, as a matter of fact, he is working on the help viewer. however, the help viewer is just an html renderer and considering that sherlock posseses both html rendering capabilities and applecare information (why not help too), apple could be working on some kind of web-browsing addition to sherlock.
When iChat was first announced at MWNY, it was in beta. Chimera won't stay that way forever, it's pretty mature as it is.
 

Kid Red

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How can Apple do it at MWSF? There won't be an update to X yet, we just got 10.2.3 so what, is Stevie gonna say, "hey Chimera is the default browser now, so delete IE." If it will be included in X, it will be by the next update which probably won't be until March or so.
 

sparkleytone

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Originally posted by Kid Red
How can Apple do it at MWSF? There won't be an update to X yet, we just got 10.2.3 so what, is Stevie gonna say, "hey Chimera is the default browser now, so delete IE." If it will be included in X, it will be by the next update which probably won't be until March or so.
wow...thats damn funny.

if this forum had moderation points, you'd get great karma from me on that one :D
 

jholzner

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Well, I don't know if or when Apple will release their own browser or wether or not they will use Chimera but I hope they do. Sure, there are many alternative browsers but I would like to see an Apple branded browser that really kicks some but on Mac OS X. I doubt it will happen on Jan. 7th. Maybe they'll show a preview or something. Can't wait! Only 6 more days!
 

gopher

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I wouldn't make Chimera default until it can handle Yahoo chat
http://chat.yahoo.com/
Yahoo chat finally works on Mozilla and Explorer using Jaguar, but only works well enough in the latest Chimera builds to present the chatroom screen. When you try to type anything in the chatroom screen, no text comes out using Chimera. Explorer and Mozilla though don't have that problem. So unless Java is improved with a Macworld announcement, it would be too early to include Chimera.
 

lmalave

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Originally posted by Kid Red
How can Apple do it at MWSF? There won't be an update to X yet, we just got 10.2.3 so what, is Stevie gonna say, "hey Chimera is the default browser now, so delete IE." If it will be included in X, it will be by the next update which probably won't be until March or so.
Why would people have to delete IE? The install could just automatically set Chimera as the default browser (asking the user for permission first, of course). And anyway, if it was released now it would still be in Beta, and they wouldn't do much besides slap an Apple logo on it anyway. I think it's entirely feasible Apple would introduce the browser at MWSF in beta (like the iSync was in beta until just today!!) and let people download it and try it out.

The bigger issue here is how much they are willing to challenge Microsoft. The fact is that Apple NEEDS Microsoft to support Office for OS X - it's a MAJOR selling point to prospective switchers. Apple already has a Switch campaign saying things like "Get out of your Windows world, it's not worth it". That being said, Chimera is a better browser, or promises to be anyway, so I think Apple will indeed make it the default. I certainly wouldn't expect Jobs to engage in any Microsoft bashing, though - any comparisons to IE would be gentle. Probably Jobs would attribute the better performance to its being a Cocoa app and not a Carbon app like IE - sending a message to developers that they better start crankin' out the Cocoa apps if they want favored status from Apple.
 

backspinner

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Just some random thought:

Phoenix is Hyatt's official pet project. It's Chimera alike, and multiplatform. But there is no official Mac build...