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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by shinji, Feb 25, 2018.
Well, I guess he must be doing a good job.
When was the last time the Chinese government shut down because they didn’t have a budget?
You can't get serious.
The Republicans love China, I don’t think they’ve met an authoritarian leader the don’t like in a long time.
Yeah, I’m sure that’s the reason.
Not sure this is good.
I’m sure it isn’t.
Watch Trump declare what a great idea it is and how the US should do it too.
No wonder Trump has found Xi a copacetic dude when they've met. Trump's been trying to create his own version of state-run media since he took office, he'd love something as well run as what Xi has, and to hear that WH press office sometimes, you'd think he's there already. To the extent the American people will continue to let the President make stuff up on the fly, Trump has already got a leg up towards being able to define unilaterally who we are, what we stand for, how we go about it and who gets to run the show.
I mean we've already let him stand up there and tell lies about stuff like the size of the crowd at his inauguration, and how many "millions of illegal votes" were cast against him else he'd have won the popular election... what's to keep us from letting him stand up there some day pretty soon and tell us lies about what's in the Constitution?
And if we rebut him?
"Oh that's an old copy of the ACLU version, we'll send out copies of the real one soon."
An excerpt from a Reuters piece talks about the segue in China towards sanctifying Xi's power, or at least getting as close to that as an officially atheist country gets. I guess a Communist theocracy could end up no more shocking to the world than having an evangelically anointed Pinocchio run a theocracy over here:
Xi is currently the party’s general secretary, but not chairman. China’s first three leaders after the founding of the People’s Republic in 1949 all carried the title party chairman -Mao Zedong, Hua Guofeng and then Hu Yaobang. It has not been used since.
“Whether Xi ends up being Party Chairman or just remains Party Secretary doesn’t really matter. What matters is whether he holds onto power,” said Zhang Ming, a professor of political science at Renmin University of China in Beijing.
“Titles don’t matter as much in China as they do in the West. Here what matters is whether you are the emperor,” he added. “In China, ordinary people already consider Xi Jinping to be the emperor.”
Mao, the founder of Communist China and still held in god-like awe by many Chinese, died while still Communist Party chairman in 1976, having never retired.
State media has also increasingly been using the term “lingxiu” to refer to Xi, which means “leader”. Distinct from the standard usage of “lingdao” for leader, “lingxiu” evokes grander, almost spiritual, connotations.
Mao, for example, was referred to as “lingxiu”, but Xi’s two immediate predecessors, Hu Jintao and Jiang Zemin, were not.
In a Sunday commentary on its WeChat account, state television said: “The people love the people’s ‘lingxiu’!”, above a picture of Xi being greeted by an adoring crowd in Sichuan province earlier this month.
Do you live in China? If not then your opinion holds as much water as mine.
Here. I’ll help you out.
Ugh why do countries always have to become dictatorships? First this and then Putin will be re-elected in March. Stupid cyclical history...
It’s the economy stupid. China’s per capita gdp has increased exponentially under the CCP watch, same with Russia under Putin. Democracy doesn’t put food on the table or pay the bills.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Russia hasn’t done particularly well under Putin. China certainly has under the modern communist party.
And democracy has been divided and delivered poor governance.
Uh, check Russia’s per capita gdp under US puppet Yeltsin and Putin, it’s like 20x increase last time I checked. It’s pretty arrogant to think that our way is the only way to structure society.
We live in world where the powerful get more powerful.
Opposite of the expectation that free flow of information would limits those powers.
Romans where right, Gladiatorial fights keep people from complaining about politics.
Yup. Then it was gladiators. Now it’s the NFL, NBA and MLB.
It would never happen, but I would support the repeal of the 22nd Amendment. Let the voters decide if a president should get a third term.
(But Trump would never support it, because it would open the door to Obama running again, and Obama would crush Trump if they ran against each other.)
The great thing about Monarchies is that the Monarch has absolute freedom to govern as he pleases-- performance metrics be damned!
There’s still a massive power structure for him to deal with guys, let’s not jump to the “dictator” label, thus enabling our military which clearly has a fight with China in its roadmap....
We’re just calling a spade a spade. The dude is clearly attempting to consolidate power. He has little interest in the rights of the people that he’s governing.
And I wouldn’t worry about a war. Trump and Xi are besties and no sane person at the pentagon, state department or anywhere else wants to fight China.
Trump is too old to want or live through 3 terms even if the constitution were to be changed. If he makes it through two terms somehow, I would bet he will push for Ivanka, Kushner, or one of his other kids to take over. After that they could push for the change so they can consolidate power and then remain as president indefinitely.
....your second paragraph shows you have not one inkling of a clue when it comes to our military posture. The nuclear defense review, recent congressional hearings, the Munich security conference, and the aspen security conference all outlined from our military leaders and planners that we’re positioning for war with China.
As for Ping, your first statement completely disregards the power and cultural dynamics of how the Chinese government operates.
So yes we can call a spade a spade...if we don’t give a damn what the definition of a spade is.