Church Congregation Hands Out Birth Control/Condoms To Protest Hobby Lobby

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  1. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/0...-birth-controlcondoms-to-protest-hobby-lobby/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5zdfDTMLeo
     
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    HA, Hobby lobby already provided those, what they need to hand out is the 4 exceptions Hobby Lobby asked for & was granted.
    embedding the video for the O.P.
     
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    Hobby lobby has started the ball rolling of Christians banning all contraception and asl the ability ti fire and not serve gays. it is nice to think what hobby lobby got was not a big deal think that if it makes you feel better. too bad the greens feel that they need to act not like Jesus.
     
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    links to back up your claims please.

    are you aware that Hobby Lobby already provided 16 forms of contraception?

    while we are at it

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...eption-case-would-likely-never-have-happened/
     
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    The free birth control and others paying for it is complete and utter bull ****. It's a standard in health care that WE pay for.

    I really wish some women's groups would get it together and come down on not wanting to pay for boner pills and other men's only healthcare issues. Why should women pay for **** men get for free?
     
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    I have posted several find them if interested. christian business owners are chomping at the bit to deny all birth control to their employees and also to be able to fire gay employees.
    I have also posted some of the nasty people the greens support. never saw any comments on that of course. the ruling did not say some forms of birth control.
     
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    You have not posted any links showing that Christians want to ban all contraception.
     
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    I'm pleased to see the Supreme Court protecting the rights of oppressed minorities like for-profit corporations, who have little power in the United States, and whose right to freely practice their religion was clearly being infringed upon here. :rolleyes:
     
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    maybe not but it is not exactly hard to find them.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/01/companies-birth-control-hobby-lobby_n_5546155.html
     
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    I thought Hobby Lobby was paying for it?
     
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    Health insurance is part of ones compensation and generally the employee pays a portion of the premium, not to mention deductibles and co-pays. As a bonus, the employer gets to deduct health insurance on their taxes.

    This is clearly why we need to uncouple health insurance from employment.
     
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    Like I said it is just starting every christian who feels persecuted is going to try to get the right to do whatever they want.
    Corporations race into Ginsburg’s ‘minefield’ to claim post-Hobby Lobby religious exemptions
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/...-claim-post-hobby-lobby-religious-exemptions/
     
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    do you know the amount that Hobbly Lobby pays as opposed to the employees?
     
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    I don't and it doesn't matter because it's part of your compensation.
     
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    compensation at the will of the employer is he so sees fit, correct?
     
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    This whole religious evangelism is a product of the Baptists! There same church that produced "the Religious Right" that is ruining the Republican party.

    You never really hear any of this compared to the Presbyterians or Methodists. :eek:
     
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    Can't wait for the South Park episode of Hobby Lobby. You know it's coming. :D
     
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    just read the link there are several businesses wanting to not pay for any contraception. and don't go on that the government will pay for it that's a new thing. conservative Christians are taking this win as a go sign to not provide or not serve or ban everything that offends them. just like they used to years ago.
    there is a lot of info of politicians trying to ban all birth control. even old jimbob dugger tried it when he ran for office.
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/republican-war-birth-control-contraception
    That's not all. Earlier this year, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a rising conservative star who's considered a possible pick for the 2012 GOP vice-presidential nomination, introduced a bill that could cut off birth control access for millions of women by allowing even non-religious employers to refuse birth control coverage as long as they cite a religious reason. In other words, if your boss doesn't want to cover birth control in the company health plan because he says it would offend his religious beliefs, he wouldn't have to—even if his Cialis was still covered. Rubio's bill could also allow states to refuse to provide birth control through Medicaid, which provides family planning services to millions of poor women.
    “These are people who have never, ever approved of birth control, and they saw an opportunity to take it one step further.”

    The Republican presidential candidates also have come out against birth control. Mitt Romney has slammed President Barack Obama for requiring most employers to offer insurance that provides birth control at no cost to women who want it, even though Romney himself maintained a similar rule as governor of Massachusetts.

    Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who won the non-binding Missouri primary as well as the Minnesota and Colorado caucuses on Tuesday, has also slammed Obama's decision. But he's also gone farther than that, suggesting that any form of birth control is immoral. "Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay," Santorum, a devout Catholic, said in October. "It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be." As Salon's Irin Carmon has documented, Santorum thinks Griswold v. Connecticut, the Supreme Court decision that said states can not deny married couples access to contraception, should be overturned.
     
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    None of that equates to a ban on contraception. This is just FUD.
     
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    you question my writing skills I question your reading comprehension right here it diesn ot say ban but does it need too? I guess if you don't see that word you will never agree. Ok here it is

     
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    Still don't see anything about Christians calling for a ban on contraceptives.

    Hint: the fact that some Christians think contraceptives are immoral, doesn't mean they are requesting they be banned.
     
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    Right they don't care sure keep saying that it may become true one day. if they knew they could they would have banned it outright. but they have to take baby steps towards it. the last article talks about why they don't try to outright ban it as it would kill their careers. but they sure as hell want to and have said as much. the only reason they have not is because it would kill them if you read the article I posted. but here let me help you out. remember you can lead a christian to logic but you cant make them understand it.
    if you deny this I give up.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...ina-voters-and-GOP-Senate-candidates-disagree

     
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    Firstly, the original article in this thread was about Christians handing out birth control and information on contraceptives. So apparently not all Christians are "Christians". I don't accept the use of the word Christian as a synonym for right-wing fundamentalist-- it is just plain misleading.

    Secondly, your follow-up article was about right-wing Republicans who are (mostly) tacitly working to ban contraception. Well, they just want to restore "states rights" to ban it, as you say. It isn't clear from the excerpt at all that their motivation has anything to do with Christianity, although apparently (they think) it has something to do with being Republican. It is nice to know that the Republican War on Women is alive and well. Hopefully, some of these bozos will grace us with some well-timed gaffes and the Democrats will capture the entire single-woman-under-50 demographic.
     

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