CIA — Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by citizenzen, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    #1
    Might as well get this one started. We might be discussing this for a while ...

     
  2. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #2
    Now why would Putin want to help Trump?
     
  3. citizenzen thread starter macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    #3
  4. tgara macrumors 6502a

    tgara

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2012
    Location:
    Somewhere in the Delta Quadrant
    #4
    Serious question, how do we know this is not a fake new story?
     
  5. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #5
    Because it comes from real news sources.
    --- Post Merged, Dec 9, 2016 ---
    Is starting to look that way isn't it.
     
  6. citizenzen thread starter macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    #6
    Time will tell.
     
  7. APlotdevice macrumors 68040

    APlotdevice

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2011
    #7
    Because despite when the voices in Trump's head tell him, the media is not just out to get him.
     
  8. Gjwilly macrumors 68030

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
  9. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #9
    So multiple sources claiming the CIA said Russia was behind it is wrong now? Or are you in denial that Trump is in cahoots with Putin?
     
  10. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

    PracticalMac

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2009
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    #10
  11. juanm macrumors 65816

    juanm

    Joined:
    May 1, 2006
    Location:
    Fury 161
    #11
    Russia benefits from a weak US.

    The astroturfing in favor of Trump (even from extreme leftists!) emanating from Russian media and alt-media has been astouding.
     
  12. Gjwilly macrumors 68030

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    #12
    Which sources?
    Not one name in that entire article. Except the nay-sayers -- they're named.
     
  13. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #13
    When have you ever seen a source named in any article? There is a reason they are unnamed sources.
     
  14. kobalap macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    #14
    Who cares. Or, put more precisely, 60 million Americans don't care.
     
  15. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #15
    Everyone hopfully
     
  16. shinji macrumors 65816

    shinji

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    #16
    Those hacked emails showed the DNC conspiring with the Clinton campaign against Bernie, Donna Brazile sharing debate questions ahead of time, and other shady behavior.

    Whoever was really responsible for exposing that, and we haven't seen any actual proof it was boogeyman-of-the-day Russia, did a good deed.
     
  17. APlotdevice macrumors 68040

    APlotdevice

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2011
    #17
    Except that the result was to get an even more corrupt person into the office.
     
  18. Jess13 Suspended

    Jess13

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2013
    #18
    I wonder how many sharing this actually read the Washington Post piece in full. Summation: Weak propaganda. Nameless “conduits,” and this choice quote: intelligence agencies do not have specific intelligence showing officials in the Kremlin “directing” the identified individuals to pass the Democratic emails to WikiLeaks, a second senior U.S. official said. Those actors, according to the official, were “one step” removed from the Russian government, rather than government employees.” Read the full piece, it’s laughable. This qualifies as quote unquote “fake news.”
     
  19. shinji macrumors 65816

    shinji

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    #19
    The blame for Hillary's loss rests squarely on her own shoulders. Biden, or really any reasonable Democrat, would've had no problem defeating Trump. It was Hillary's own track record, campaign strategy, and positions that weren't good enough, and that can't be blamed on Russia.
     
  20. APlotdevice, Dec 9, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2016

    APlotdevice macrumors 68040

    APlotdevice

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2011
    #20
    Hillary should be fed to the metaphorical woodchipper, there's no doubt about that, but I'll hold off my celebrations until and unless the Gilded Buffoon is booted out of office.
     
  21. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #21
    WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.

    They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html?

    Republicans have a different explanation for why no documents from their networks were ever released. Over the past several months, officials from the Republican committee have consistently said that their networks were not compromised, asserting that only the accounts of individual Republicans were attacked. On Friday, a senior committee official said he had no comment.
     
  22. Jess13 Suspended

    Jess13

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2013
    #22
    No intelligence that the Russian government directed any of this. None. P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A.
     
  23. MacNut macrumors Core

    MacNut

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    #23
    Denial is not just a symptom of an all night bender. Just admit it your boy Trump is dirty.
     
  24. Jess13 Suspended

    Jess13

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2013
    #24
    Trump is dirty? Funny, because he and Gen. Flynn are going to immediately end Obama and CIA/“Deep State” treason program of arming al-Qaeda and ISIS in Syria in conspiracy with 9/11 Saudis (that is one main reason CIA/“Deep State” is trying to undermine him, i.e. with this weak propaganda (and in other ways)). For example, Trump met with Tulsi Gabbard recently at Trump Tower to speak about Syria, you should hear what she had to say yesterday about it on CNN with Jake Tapper: She told Jake Tapper right to his face that Obama and CIA are arming al-Qaeda and ISIS. Anyway, back to the main point of this thread, from a real journalist who still has integrity:


    Liberals Will Cite Russian Hacking To Push For An Electoral College Coup

    https://medium.com/@mtracey/liberal...sh-for-an-electoral-college-coup-faf5b289684c

    Now that the Washington Post is out with another “Russian hacking” non-story, the pressure campaign will intensify, and liberals will attempt to goad the Electoral College into interceding against Trump. It really needs to be repeated over and over again that no evidence has yet been presented that the Russian government interfered in the US election on behalf of Trump. Lots of people suddenly believe that as a matter of conventional wisdom, because they keep hearing it repeated uncritically, but it remains the case that no direct evidence has ever been shown to the public. Instead, liberals are cheering CIA’s apparent judgment that Russia hacked the election for Trump. Nevermind that this information was conveyed anonymously, without attribution, to the Washington Post by way of selective leaks. And forget the CIA’s horrendous record of duplicity and wickedness. No, because it is seen to harm Trump, we must all stand up and celebrate this development.​
     
  25. BoneDaddy Suspended

    BoneDaddy

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2015
    Location:
    Texas
    #25
    Actually he is right. If you'd look into things a little further than taking your Dem buddy's words for everything, you'd know that they aren't able to factually state that Russia absolutely did it. There is an interview with a congressman who was head of intel (something or other) who was saying that Russia was... yada yada, and when asked to speak into the camera and tell the American people that Russia, in fact, are surely the ones who hacked FOR Trump, he couldn't do it. Instead, he double spoke and did all that political talk. It was quite pathetic.

    Aside from the interview, there is no solid intel that proves Russia did it. "None".
     

Share This Page