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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by zimv20, Jul 3, 2006.
if this is indeed a step forward, why hasn't the WH trumpeted it?
lol. That kinda dovetails with this (nytimes) story claiming Al-Qaeda sold out Zarqawi for assurances that the search for bin Laden would be scaled back.
wow. that's a bit of a bombshell.
You have got to be kidding me. Wow.
I officially have no faith in government whatsoever.
"Osama Bin Laden given presidential pardon"
Or maybe this means that we already caught Bin Laden...
Wouldn't surprise me. Bush waiting until '08 to announce it so he can usher in his heir.
They couldn't wait that long, but people are already expecting something like this for '06. Sounds kinda paranoid, but given the current climate, I wouldn't doubt it. Would explain a lot, but you'd think it'd be a little suspicious. The fact that Zarqawi's death didn't exactly help things should tell them something too, but after all this, people are getting antsy.
Hopefully this gets play, if nothing else than to highlight the lack of focus on what should have been our main objective all along.
i would like to think that at this stage if they captured/killed bin laden they would receive a "took you long enough" response from the electorate
Bin Laden has been Bush's trillion dollar man.
IF he is still alive, he will never be allowed to go before any court to testify
what he knows.
Bush will go down in history as the great deceiver.
Can we vote for a new president yet?
Hmmm, let's see...it's currently 2006....
Well its fact that Bush's family had strong ties with the Bin Laden family in all their oil dealings through the years. So the man that did 911 is ignored but they did get Saddam. George sold us on Saddam = Bin Laden hence us in Iraq, hence Bin Laden still free. I have no faith in this president on anything, everything he says is suspect because of all the lies, spin and storys they have sold us. They have shown over & over they just cant be trusted.
I always love the "Clinton didn't do anything" defense. At the end of his term he was having daily meetings with the heads of the intelligence offices or Attorney General about stopping al-Qaida. Bush eliminated these meetings in an effort to stop "swatting flies" and supposedly develop a strategy to eliminate al-Qaida. While not a bad goal, why on earth do you eliminate the programs that are keeping the agencies on their toes and quite probably stopping attacks? Do we discontinue all illegal drug enforcement when Congress starts debating tougher drug laws?
Yes, Clinton probably should have gone into Afghanistan after the U.S.S. Cole, but does anyone really believe that the GOP led Congress would have given him authorization?
I think Clinton's administration still regarded Bin Laden and Al Qaeda as
a small group of extreme radicals that needed to be dealt with as international criminals.
Terrorism is in reality, a military tactic or strategy.
The Bush administration has succeeded to gain War Powers to launch a War On Terrorism while in reality it is our foreign policy towards
Israel and the exploitation of natural resources in the middle east that fanned the flames of terrorism to begin with.
Now with the political backing of the Extreme Right Wing Evangelical Rapture
Republicans, this has become a Holy War.
Like it or not, we have entered a Christian backed War on Islam.
That's ******** and you know it.
Fact? Link me.
Go look it up yourself, before Jr was a governor he was bailed out or helped by that family with his failing oil dealings.
I couldn't find it. So either you can find it for me, or we can all just assume you are lying.
All you have to do is look at his connection to the Carlyle group or Bush Money,Bush watch.
Do you not speak English? I want a link.
Sorry watching Nasa.
is the economist a good-enough reference?
That was more of a book review, but I'll accept.
Anyways, I see no real connection here. Bushies employed the Carlyle group who manage some of the bin Laden's family wealth who have an estranged sibling who no one in the family wants to touch. Doesn't seem like much of a conspiracy theory there...
http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmoney.htmHere's one, anyways this guy is in tight with the Saudi's, you know the country where most the 911 attackers came from.
ghw bush doesn't employ the carlyle group, he's an integral part of it, along with james baker, john majors, and others. the bin laden family also used to be a part, but from what i understand, due to the politics of the day, they've quietly backed out.
i present this as well-known information about bush and bin laden family ties, without claiming any sort of conspiracy. if you're looking to cast doubt on those ties in order to debunk the conspiracy, you best try a different tactic.
So the administration is playing off this guy? He should be on the top of the CIA list until he is caught. The president said he would get him, he lied to us the people once again. He promised getting Bin Laden what happened?