CNN hands over info on author of Steve Jobs rumor

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  1. MacBytes macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. Trip.Tucker Guest

    Mar 13, 2008
    Much good that it will do as the poster more than likely hid his trail.
  3. macfan881 macrumors 68020

    Feb 22, 2006
  4. Rivix macrumors 6502a


    Oct 13, 2005
    I think that's a bit extreme.
  5. DMann macrumors 601


    Jan 13, 2002
    This all depends on how adversely this rumor has affected stock holders' portfolios.
  6. Rivix macrumors 6502a


    Oct 13, 2005
    CNN should be in more crap than the source. It was them who published this rumor without verifying anything.
  7. nstrudwick macrumors newbie

    Nov 5, 2007
    But we shouldn't also forget the lazy journalists and paranoid stock market people who picked up this rumour and reacted to it without bothering to check whether it was true. This is the curse of so-called "citizen journalism"!
  8. Rybold macrumors 6502a


    Jun 23, 2008
    California, USA
    CNN iReport responsible for Steve Jobs' heart attack rumor, $9B loss in Apple, S.E.C.

    Many news websites have recently added features that allow users to post breaking news from their cell phones, especially iPhones. As a result of this...

    "CNN discovers downside of 'citizen journalism'
    The banner at the top of CNN's public journalism web site reads, "See it first. Your Stories. No Boundaries. You won't believe what people are uploading."
    Indeed, on Friday morning, boundaries were loose. An iReport story posted by a "Johntw" at around 9 a.m. EDT with the headline "Steve Jobs rushed to ER following severe heart attack" entered the Internet rumor mill, landing on news site and spawning dozens of nervous postings on micro-blogging site By 9:25 am, the widely read online magazine Silicon Alley Insider had picked up the item.

    Apple stock dropped with incredible speed on the strength of the rumor. The company's shares fell to $95.41 from $105.27 between 9:40 and 9:52 a.m. - 9 percent - before Apple denied the report. After describing the content as fraudulent, CNN confirmed Friday that a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation is under way in regard to the "citizen blogger" post, which caused a $9 billion loss in Apple shares before the post was debunked. The posting on iReport was "not vetted or reported by CNN journalists," according to a CNN statement.

    On Tuesday night, CBS' mobile phone application, which allows users to upload pictures and video directly to, published sexually explicit pictures (one of a woman bent over her kitchen stove, her skirt hiked up, according to Ad Age magazine). On Wednesday, both CBS and its advertising partner, Google's AdMobs, which places advertisements next to the Eyemobile videos, issued statements about the incident

    "In addition to CBS and CNN, Fox News and the Associated Press have iPhone applications that allow users to submit images."

    The similar iPhone App from CBS:

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  9. Flhusky macrumors 6502a


    Aug 28, 2007
    As long as its unfiltered and unmoderated things like this will happen.
  10. efp1 macrumors 6502


    Oct 3, 2008
    Sites such as these should be heavily moderated.
  11. DYER macrumors 6502

    Oct 4, 2008
    London, UK
    I would not say it is due to citizen journalism but as rightly pointed out CNN's lack of sense on verifying that SJ had indeed had a heart attack. (Is it just me or did CNN also publich SJ's obituary a month or so back or was that somone else "scratches head")
    Too many news companies are taking info the get for granted today its an absaloute freaking disaster.
  12. sushi Moderator emeritus


    Jul 19, 2002
  13. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
    No, that was Bloomberg, I believe.
  14. JNB macrumors 604


    Oct 7, 2004
    In a Hell predominately of my own making
    Actually, two things about that article bugged me even more, the references to "ordinary citizens" and "citizen reporters." So, are professional journalists extraordinary citizens, or are they alien reporters? Either case, it shows a lack of understanding and disdain for the public and an over-inflated sense of self-importance among those that produce the news. And I do mean produce.
  15. pmpknetr21 macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2003
    Very well said; I couldn't agree more.
  16. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    Although, in balance, there are fairly hot legal issues at the moment concerning the similarity or difference between bloggers and others outside the mainstream news media and insiders -- it's currently still an open legal question in the US as to which policies regarding source privilege, press credentialing, etc. In fact even in the computer industry, bloggers have not traditionally been treated like other press members in terms of being credentialed for events like MacWorld -- that has only started to change recently.

    As a comparison, you might just start providing counseling services to people either as a pro bono service or perhaps through the guise of some kind of consultation that waived the requirement that you be licensed. You might even be quite good -- better than me -- and attract a significant number of clients. However, that would not mean that the legal privilege relationship my conversations with my patients have would automatically apply to your conversations with your clients. There's a big legal difference there.

    The same has been very true recently for bloggers and others in the newsmedia. In CNN's case, what kind of classification these individuals has can be very important in terms of their obligations, e.g. to divulge sources, etc. I think that, while the law has to catch up with the way the world works today, the media can also be forgiven for being cautious in ways that may protect them legally given the current uncertainty.
  17. carlgo macrumors 68000

    Dec 29, 2006
    No, not at all. It is not a serious crime to fraudulently cause millions of investors to lose millions of dollars?! It is not a serious crime to short a stock (bet on its falling) and then create a rumor that will cause that stock to fall so that the criminal can cash in on it?!

    Seems like a serious crime to me. I would like to see this person pay, maybe through some serious public service if this was just a stupid person who though it was funny or something. Jail would be appropriate if it was a well thought out attempt to defraud people.
  18. coolfactor macrumors 68040

    Jul 29, 2002
    Vancouver, BC CANADA
    Deliberately posting false information to an unmoderated service intended for factual news items is an action with intent. An intent to cause damage. Damage was caused.
  19. reverie macrumors regular

    Nov 21, 2006
    Berlin, Germany
    What bothers me about this article is that it insinuates that it could be possible that Steve Jobs actually did have a heart attack.

    The AP reporter claims that Steve was "extremely" thin, which is not true as he is very thin, but not extremely so. The most correct description would have been that he looks a lot older, as his face has become gaunt while he still carries quite some body fat.

    She also wrote that he has remained completely quiet on the health subject, which is also not true as he mentioned it on the last keynote and also gave more detailed information to a few reporters off the record who confirmed that he is sick but does not have cancer and is not in terminal danger.

    The AP reporter is glossing over thos details, thereby putting new fire under the rumor.
  20. Rybold macrumors 6502a


    Jun 23, 2008
    California, USA
    I agree completely ... but hey, we both read what the article said - all of those
    incidents apparently were not moderated until after they had been posted.
  21. JeffTL macrumors 6502a

    Dec 18, 2003
    What gets me is why CNN is allowing a site associated with their news organization to have less moderation and fact checking than It sounds all cute and "Web 2.0," but it leaves a lot of room for crimes like securities manipulation and libel.
  22. xxchefxx macrumors member

    Jul 7, 2008
    Steve Jobs Suffers A Fake Heart Attack: Apple Shares Tumble

    Steve Jobs is certainly on someone's hitlist these days, especially since a CNN site reported that the Apple boss just suffered a heart attack and was rushed to hospital.

    Of course, Steve and Apple were as surprised as anyone to find out that he was again at death's door. Even more surprising - and alarming - was the fact that the fake story dragged Apple's share price down to its lowest point in a year. The US Securities and Exchange Commission is now on the hunt for the author.

    An excerpt from the report on CNN's, citizen journalism site, iReport, read:
    "Steve Jobs was rushed to the ER just a few hours ago after suffering a major heart attack. I have an insider who tells me that paramedics were called after Steve claimed to be suffering from severe chest pains and shortness of breath. My source has opted to remain anonymous, but he is quite reliable."

    Recently, Steve Jobs actually managed to die according to Bloomberg, who mistakenly printed his obituary.

    The new fake report was pulled fast and CNN has been dodging flak since. See a screen grab of the pulled report, courtesy of ZDnet
  23. DreamPod macrumors 65816

    Mar 15, 2008
    Calling it a $9 billion loss is quite the gigantic exaggeration, only designed to get a lot of attention. Their company was worth $9 billion less for a small amount of time, sure - but the only way it would have actually lost that much money would have been if EVERY share of stock were sold at that lower price. Guess what, that's not even possible :)
  24. wHo_tHe macrumors regular

    Jan 2, 2002
    :: :: All bay, all day.
    No, professional journalists are not necessarily extraordinary, but the process of producing professional journalism includes several stages of confirmation and review to prevent deliberately fabricated erroneous information from reaching the public.

    Citizen journalism can be a very powerful force, but this story illustrates one of the very significant pitfalls of publishing unreviewed, unconfirmed information.
  25. nkawtg72 macrumors 6502

    Aug 16, 2007
    just maybe...

    does anyone else think that maybe this was part of Phase Two of the $300m Microsoft strategy?

    no matter, in the spirit of Personalizing Success and Nationalizing Failure, I recommend that Congress cut Apple and it's investors a check for $9billion since it wasn't Apple's fault that some idiot decided to play Walter Cronkite.

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