CNN Reporter Asks Obama: 'Why Can't We Take Out These Ba*****s?'

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    That's pretty decisive!
     
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    The sad boy, gripped with uncertainty and fear over foreign issues he fails to comprehend, is an embarrassment to the USA.

    His propensity to act the clown when hosting hip hop artists like Jay Z is revealing of his mind set.
     
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    First of all, listening to the Pres more and more, I don't know where he got that reputation in the first place - probably from the main stream media drumming it into everyone's head.

    We'd gotten a chance to see the unscripted great orator take a beat down in debate #1 against Romney.

    Second, the Pres became so pissy and thin skinned to that CNN (how dare he!) reporter.
     
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    I listened to the quote. He answered a dumb question as best he could without telling the reporter directly that his question was dumb. Why can't the U.S. kill the bad guys? Where are they? A guerrilla force that melts back in to the population when a given territory is taken is not simple to deal with. Anybody remember Vietnam? Do you want to send in a million troops and have them police the territory for the next 30 years? Sure, that would work, but, at what cost?
     
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    I think you're missing the point. These sort of threads aren't started to have a good-faith discussion of serious issues. They are simply an opportunity for the usual suspects to vent their venom at President Obama; at Muslims; Democrats; and immigrants.
     
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    I would guess Obama is tired of answering the same questions. As he said before, yeah, we can drop lots of bombs, send the military and hold some land but that will not and has not solved the problem. It is kinda easy to appreciate Obama's irritation.
     
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    What the President should be tired of are all those years of softball questions. Whether in the mainstream media newsroom or from his all-to-frequent appearances on The View or on Ellen. (during those instances when he's not out golfing)

    The President’s apparently visceral reaction arises in the rare instance of a hard question.

    Especially so when it’s come out of the blue from one of the usually fawning, supportive and unquestioning main stream media outlets.
     
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    I watched the clip, and I came away with two realizations:

    1. He's right, this is not a "traditional military," and that simply occupying a territory won't solve the underlying problems.
    2. Posters in this thread are also correct; it's clear to me, based on this clip, that he doesn't know how to handle this.
     
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    I want Obama to pop off his vision for ISIS and the Middle East.
     
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    No doubt you held the same sentiments in when reporters asked George W. Bush why we can't kill Bin Laden.

    Anyway, Obama's answer was in the form of a scolding lecture as it often is when he's annoyed: this isn't an ordinary enemy, blah, blah, blah, the geopolitical ramifications are complex, yada, yada, yada. As if we haven't been fighting this kind of war since 2001. Obama believes answering questions is beneath him and he's clearly more comfortable answering questions on The View than he is answering questions from real reporters on real topics.

    Meanwhile, Putin's air campaign has grown to raids of 40 heavy-bombers. Like him or not, old Vlad is decisive and he has a strategy.
     
  15. Huntn, Nov 18, 2015
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    Yes absolutely. Based on what I know, what history we've had in the region, and the results of an invasion (another GOP bright idea) and 10 year occupation, this thread sounds like another disgruntled, anti-Obama partisan post.

    Agreed. The easiest action would be to nuke the entire region, (let's hear a cheer conservatives), problem solved, but you've got to kill them all or 50 years later they'll be at it again... :rolleyes: Other than that, the challenge is huge for the West to settle a conflict that has been going on for centuries, in addition to the instabilities the West has historically introduced into the area. The most significant aspect of this Obama GOP whining, is the same crowd was virtually mum when it came to Dubya shenanigans. Hypocrites and distortionists for political gain is name of the game.

    At least you got no.1 right. Now's your and the naysayers opportunity to tell us your plan, or whose plan you think is the best.

    What do all the GOP candidates propose? See below, the most out of touch with reality seems to be Huckabee, but none of them seem to be proposing anything that Obama is not already doing or trying to do. Whether you like it or not, Obama has world wide respect, while His predecessor was a laughing stock. That is the reality. A lot of you guys must pride yourself on your selective memory.

    Has any GOP Presidential candidate said invade (just curious)? How do their proposals signicantly differ from what is all ready being done? Is it when a Republican advocates what is all ready being done, it sounds like a better idea if it a Republican was the one doing it? ;)

    These Are The Republican Candidates’ Actual ‘Ideas’ To Defeat ISIS

    Huckabee quote:
    The former Arkansas governor’s plan is pretty simple. “[W]hen we have a threat, whether it is ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iranians, whatever it is, we make it very clear that we plan to push back and destroy that threat to us,” Huckabee said in an interview with American Heartland with Dr. Grace. “And we won’t take 10 years doing it, we hopefully won’t even take 10 months, it will be like a 10 day exercise, because the fierceness of our forces would mean that we can absolutely guarantee the outcome of this film. That’s how America needs to operate in the world of foreign affairs, and foreign policy.”
     
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    Arguing against a sitting president doesn't mean you are arguing for the other side it's quite possible to think both sides are wrong. Don't look for offense
     
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    "Solved", except for that nasty little Nuclear Winter problem.

     
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    I'm sorry but your analogy fails miserably.

    Bush's answer when questioned about bin Laden was that he didn't spend much time thinking about him; and that capturing or killing him in particular was of lesser importance. (This was less than six months after the 9/11 attacks themselves, at a time when America was still reeling from the tragedy. )

    Whether Bush really believed that or not is unknown. But I think fair to say that a great many Americans did feel that "getting bin Laden" was important. Both at the time of Bush's statement in March 2002 - and nine years later when President Obama (reading from a teleprompter, no doubt) announced bin Laden's death.

    When Obama was asked why he couldn't "just get" ISIL -and he gave a relatively detailed explanation of the situation, indicating the facts that to do so militarily would - at best - be temporary, and moreover would come at a tremendous financial and human cost to the United States. Obama never said that the issue was unimportant or that he didn't care. He simply said that there were no simple; quick; and easy answers.

    If you see any sort equivalence in those two incidents - its a false one.
     
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    Would a Nuclear Winter counteract Global Warming and bring us to an equilibrium?
     
  20. Huntn, Nov 18, 2015
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    Dr Strangelove had it all figured out. Live in caves for 100 years at a ratio of 7 women for every man. ;)

    Does it mean anything to you that we've been at this for 12 years, that the US populace is fatiqued with a state of war behind the screen, that we want to disengage, and that Putin is a new comer to the conflict?

    You may also remember (depending on your age) that the USSR fought the Soviet-Afgan War for 9 years before leaving the region with their tails between their legs so don't be so quick to cheer the superiority of their strategy. Let's see how they look in ten years. ;) The regional countries and populaces have to step up to the plate if we want this to be resolved and even that might not go the way we want it to.

    Btw, what do you say to a $2000 per year, per citizen war tax to pay for our foreign adventures?
     
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    Well, soot and smoke might gather around the planet long enough to cause world wide crop shortages for say a decade or so, for example.

    So maybe temps would equal out... sometime... maybe... but it might not be a very smooth transition...

    I guess it'd be kinda like looking down the barrel of the world's most powerful handgun and asking yourself "Do I feel lucky?"

    Our grandchildren would undoubtedly thank us in the future and likely build statues in our honor!
     
  22. Populism, Nov 18, 2015
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    Wrong. Here's what Liberals have taught us.

    If you criticize anything at all - even the delivery of information - you must present the better alternative.

    For example, it is no longer acceptable to say, "Transformers: Age of Extinction was a bad movie." You must also articulate a better version of Transformers: Age of Extinction.

    Likewise, you cannot critique books, concepts, public policy, wars, speeches, ideology, etc. without simultaneously offering the better alternative. If you are unable to "pop off" the better alternative, you should - must - remain silent.

    It's the new pink in silencing dissenting opinions and mere critiques.
     
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    Nobody "knows" how to handle this.

    I just read a news item where three "experts" gave vastly different answers in how to handle ISIS.

    Anybody pretending to know the answer ... is just pretending.
     

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