Cohen Says Trump Should Face Prison: ‘I’m Not the One That Slept With the Porn Star’

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  1. ericgtr12 macrumors 65816

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    Look at it from his perspective, he lied on behalf of Trump at Trump's request. Trump got to sleep with Stormy, lied directly (on live TV) when asked about paying the hush money and Cohen is the one going to prison. Meanwhile, Trump is laughing it all up.

    No matter how one feels about Cohen, he's getting the short end of the stick. Anyone who ever thought loyalty to Trump would pay off started jumping ship like rats afterwards.

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  2. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

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    He’s got a valid point but valid points aren’t law.

    I feel like thanks to Trump right now there are a bunch of law and judicial experts that want to try to turn some “valid points” into law but they don’t even know where to begin, just too many examples of how Trump skates the thin line between immoral stupidity and legality.
     
  3. ericgtr12 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    In the end Cohen broke the law and is paying the price, it's his own fault.

    In the end Trump broke the law and will face zero penalties for it, short of losing the election in 2020. The lesson? It's good to be Trump and without consequences he will never stop breaking the law.
     
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    If you believe him.
     
  5. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    And if they change the law or write new ones, Trump would manage to find the thin line between *that* law and immoral but not illegal. That's his superpower. He's not as stupid as he appears. I think he purposefully acts stupid in order to get people to underestimate him. Sure, he's not interested in learning basic facts and history, so he's ignorant of a lot of common sense knowledge, but that's because he's uninterested in learning them, not because he's too stupid to learn.
     
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    Trump him and his administration should be immune from any prosecutions? Did you not see the article for the international war crimes one as well..?
     
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    I think Trump should change his middle name to Dubious. I heard recently somebody say Trump is poor people’s version of what they think a rich person is. I think that works on so many levels. I don’t believe any real titans of industry have ever respected him and certainly don’t now. If the World Wresting Federation were to create a used car salesman turned world leader character they could easily cast Trump and wouldn’t need to make any adjustments to his presentation or personality.
     
  8. ericgtr12 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Non-rabid Trump supporters are aware that the evidence points to the fact that Trump lied on that plane. That Trump issued the checks (both directly and indirectly) and that Trump had the affair.
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    I'm just saying it doesn't matter, Trump is above the law in every way and can do whatever he wants and nobody will impeach, prosecute, etc. We've seen that now. Now is a good time for him to go ahead and shoot that person in the middle of 5th avenue, he was spot on with that analogy.
     
  9. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Karma. For Cohen and I imagine Trump. Though for Trump is will take longer.
     
  10. raqball macrumors 68000

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    And that's a positive how exactly?

    Yuck! <insert_vomiting_ emoji_here>
     
  11. ericgtr12 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    The heart wants what the heart wants.
     
  12. stylinexpat macrumors 65816

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    I remember when he said that one. He knew he was going to do a lot of bad things when he became President where he could test his powers to see if he could match those of other Tyrant countries.
     
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    Cohen needs to make sure he does not drop the soap.......that said if Cohen KNEW that what trump allegedly asked him could land him in jail, WHY did he do it? he did it for money so I don't feel sorry for him at all.
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    are we NOT a tyrant country?
     
  14. stylinexpat macrumors 65816

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    Depends on whom you ask ;) Just look at some recent UN votes that the US administration showed no regards to.
     
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    Then where are the indictments (or articles of impeachment)?

    For the record, if I had to guess, I would say that Trump has broken the law. However, Cohen sounds completely lame here because he, more than anyone else on the planet, had the ability to carefully document Trump’s wrongdoings and he failed to do so.

    He’s the one who blew it, so he should shut his mouth and do his time.
     
  16. ericgtr12 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    You must have missed it when Mueller expressed that you "could not indict a sitting president". I'll give you this one but do your homework next time.

    As for the articles of impeachment, hang tight.
     
  17. mgguy macrumors 6502

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    What law did Trump break exactly?
     
  18. ericgtr12 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Not going to point out what you guys refuse to either read or believe, that's on you. You all are like a broken record with this stuff.
     
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    You claimed Trump broke the law and so it is on you to point out what law/laws you are talking about.
     
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    My problem with the titans of industry (or at least their overlords in Wall Street) is that they're apparently getting ready to try to re-elect him anyway, having looked over the field of Democrats and being unsure that a bank-hating leftie might not manage to squeak into the nomination.

    To the titans of Wall Street (and industry): if that's true, I'd say what an idiotic reason to reinstall a scofflaw as our President. The Congress is divided now so it's not like Trump is having the easy time he had before the 2018 elections anyway.

    Trump is capable of doing far more damage to everything industry and Wall Street hold sacred on the whole planet than is some Dem like Warren or Sanders threatening to hold banks more accountable, given a Congress more beholden to banks than to presidents no matter their stripe: Congress holds the purse strings, but Trump runs rule-making cabinet agencies and decides our foreign policy and he is a few feet away from the nuke codes 24/7. And he's the most impulsive, erratic, self-destructive president we've ever elected in our history.

    I'll take whatever nominee the Democrats serve up in 2020 and will expect Congress to do its duty and serve up checks and balances on any overeager executive. OK so they didn't do a great job reining in Trump. They're awake now and will probably --damn it!-- do a very fine job reining in whichever Democrat lands in the Oval Office in January 2021.

    The luck of the draw of Dems, having to follow a Prez who cut taxes and didn't pay for it. We've been there before. So what... let's just get on with it. Trump is incompetent, setting aside issues of amorality and slippage in norms of presidential behavior. What are titans of industry or Wall Street even thinking to support him for another four year rampage?

    As for the tribulations of Michael Cohen, he has made his bed and looks like time to settle in and get used to sleeping on it. If he can contribute any further documentation of legal-margin-busting efforts by his boss, where the heck is it? I keep hoping some of it's in the hands of state attorneys general ready for use when Trump leaves office. But if it's considered that valuable you'd think there'd have been a way to say thank you sooner to Cohen. Maybe they'll knock his fines down. Or maybe he's lucky he didn't get even more time in a slam with nice mattresses and a ballfield or whatever.
     
  21. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    The tax stuff and taxi license stuff, Cohen did for financial gain, obviously. But the Stormy Daniels payment, I think he did out of loyalty to Trump. The way he explained it at the congressional hearing, he was really taken in by Trump's charisma, and the sense of belonging to something important that is bigger than himself. While it doesn't reflect well on Cohen that he realized it was an illusion only when Trump turned on him, I do believe Cohen was motivated by something other than just money.

    I'm not the one who posted that claim, but I assume it's about the campaign finance violation
    Cohen pleaded guilty to. During the formal statement of his plea, Cohen said he committed said violation under the direction of and in coordination with Donald Trump. That makes Trump a co-conspirator in the crime Cohen plead guilty to.
     
  22. Solomani macrumors 68040

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    It's good to be the Dictator.
     
  23. jkcerda macrumors 6502a

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    Then he deserves to be in jail for his loyalty
     
  24. BeeGood macrumors 68000

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    False. There’s no law against indicting a sitting president. The justice department just chooses not to.

    Try doing your own homework next time.

    :rolleyes:

    We’ve been hearing this quite literally since the month he took office. But OK.
     
  25. raqball macrumors 68000

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    Exactly...

    I get a kick out of those who claim otherwise... It's a DOJ opinion memo and nothing more. If Mueller felt he had prosecutable offenses against the president then now would have been as good a time as any to challenge that opinion memo...

    The DOJ memo is not the result of a SCOTUS ruling nor is it based on unchallenged law..
     

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