College Student? Some of the GOP doesn't want you to vote

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  1. CaptMurdock macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, that well-known party of individual liberty and responsibility proves where they are at once again:

    New Hampshire House Speaker Wants To Cut Voting Rights For Students Because They’re “Voting Liberal”

    As the article goes on, you read about other attempts to disenfranchise voters across the nation. Boy, for all their bluster about how they are going to Take Back The Country in 2012, they don't seem to have much confidence in the American voter.
     
  2. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I want to know how they hell they plan on stopping college students from voting.
    Most of the voter ID restrictions will have ZERO and I mean ZERO effect on college students because most if not all of the ones that can vote tend to have DLs or state ID cards since they tend to be needed for a fair even get into school.

    Now the other on the list yeah it does hurt them but for college students that type of stuff tends to piss them off and push them to vote in numbers which can out way what ever other groups they are stopping. AKA backfiring in college districts BIG time.
     
  3. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

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    Let's compromise: People 65 and over can't vote either because they typically vote conservative. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    The University here has about 16,000 students, the county has a population of 280,000. There's a big push to get enough signatures from county residents to have elections in June instead of November. The extra election will cost $150,000 a year. The stated purpose of the date change according to the paid signature gatherers is "so the college kids can't vote."

    I'll bet you anything this is a Koch funded initiative.
     
  5. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I have do things like that in Lubbock to prevent the city from going wet they would keep putting that in the summer. Finally made the city go wet because they got the election during the fall.

    TTU adds around an extra 20k votes per year (10k to account for students who do not change their voting location and international students who can not vote)
     
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    How many of that 16,000 are out of state, or at least out of area students? It sounds like the initiative would ensure that college kids who want to vote can do so, you know, where they live instead of where they're transient. The kids that are actual county residents would still be around in June to cast their ballots.
     
  7. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    well that would only be for local election and my guess is most of them.

    Take for example TTU. Of its 30k students most of them are not from lubbock.
     
  8. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    If you were out of state you wouldn't be able to vote right?
     
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    easy to move where you are registered to vote.
     
  10. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    A few years back here, when the last mayor decided he wasn't running for reelection, one of the candidates was a recent UA graduate and SGA president. Some people in the various Greek organizations (heavily tied to the SGA here) thought this was such a fabulous idea that they organized a large quantity of the student body to change their address to and/or register to vote in this county for the express purpose of getting him elected. It worked.
     
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    Students spend 9 months out of the year in the place where they go to college, I don't see anything wrong with them voting there. The decisions of the mayor affect the students who are living there, and in the cases of small college towns, the mayor is especially important since the college and local government tend to work very closely together.
     
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    Simple. Slap O'Brien upside the head with the 15th, 19th, and 26th Amendments to the Constitution, and watch him crawl back into his little corner, whining like a little b***h.

    This smacks of a major lawsuit waiting to happen, which could spell the end of his political career.

    BL.
     
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    By the same token, we should ban campaign contributions by corporations whose headquarters are not located in the city or state the candidate is in.
     
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    If we are going to allow private campaign contributions, the constitution should be amended to require public officials to recuse themselves from sponsorship, debate or voting on any issue that affects a person, party or company that has donated more than $100 to that official's campaign for office.
     
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    Rights as important as our voting rights shouldn't be left up to the political whims of 50 legislative bodies.


    I don't think we'll see an amendment in our lifetimes. We are just too polarized.
     
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    Not to mention the fact that they would probably never sit for a vote during their term of office. :rolleyes:

    Vested interests, except on a person by person level, should be outlawed.

    Why should a company have more "votes" than any one single voter??
     
  17. thefnshow macrumors regular

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    why do democrats seem to not want our people in the military to vote ?
     
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    Huh? Since when? Source?
     
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    Don't you remember, the GOP made that claim to distract everyone from the ballot issues in Florida. They were running around on every news station claiming that Democrats were trying to keep x,000 military votes that weren't dated from counting, all while doing everything they could to keep anyone from reporting the fact that thousands upon thousands of people voted for a third party candidate in a county with a bizaare ballot.

    [​IMG]

    (edit) Apparently, there was a Democrat memo issued at the time regarding disqualifying military ballots. The rules are different as to timing and postdating, and the memo was characterized as Democrats trying to keep military votes from counting.

    Meanwhile...

     
  20. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Honest to God now -- who do you think has a better grasp of the world around them?:
    • A 16 year old kid who gets his news on the internet and is smart enough to sift the truth from the bullcrap; or
    • A middle-aged white guy who knows only what he hears on Fox?
    Jesus, lower the voting age!! :D
     
  21. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    Maybe just lower the upper bound? When you reach 55, you must pass the standard citizenship test administered to immigrants if you want to retain your voting rights, and every five years thereafter.
     
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    Sound thinking, for they have the most to lose. :cool:
     
  23. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    problem is the internet is so full of bullcrap you can find infomtion supporting what ever view point you want.
    I would say both are equally as bad an uninformed.

    You can not count on the 16 year old being smart. The average person is an idiot.
     
  24. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    Or are completely senile.

    I think that would be great here in Arizona, while the students would be gone, so would the snowbirds—typically older residents who maintain winter homes here.

    Of course, such a system makes it more difficult for students who are effectively residents of their college town: they pay taxes (sales, rent, sin), deal with municipal structures, etc.
    Some students use the summer to travel or take internships and thus would have to vote by mail.

    Ultimately, moving the election around for these reasons is just partisan nonsense that neither side should engage in.
     
  25. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    biggest problem you run into with college students is they can vote in 2 different places choosing were ever their vote would count the most.

    For example lets say someone wants to vote from Texas wants to vote (dem or GOP) canidated and is going to school in a swing state. Well they can vote in the swing state because the vote would matter more there. Voting in Texas the result will be GOP.

    Or on the flip side a student from a Swing state wants to vote (Dem or GOP does not matter here) again they can vote in there home state for the swing.

    Just point out the catch you have there.
     

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