Collusion may be the least of Trump's problems

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  1. ericgtr12 macrumors 65816

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    I can't imagine there's an attorney on this planet that wouldn't tell him to stop tweeting about this. We're not just talking about collusion any more, this is potential witness tampering and obstruction of justice. If Trump goes down for this, it will be entirely his own fault.
     
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    Trump gonna be Trump... LOL

    It gives the media something to put on the air and be "outraged" about, and make mad profits from ad revenue, so it's just his way of helping the economy... :)
     
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    Not to mention that ad revenue he probably brings in for Twitter. If he's gonna go down, he's gonna make people rich while doing it. :D
     
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    The narrative is slowly shifting to obstruction since it's becoming clear Mueller's found nothing on collusion.
     
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    Hey, remember when the Republican Party claimed to be the party of law and order? Now, the head of the party commits felonies in broad daylight and none of his supporters care.
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    It can be both. Mueller’s biggest problem right now is trying to finalize his report when Trump refuses to stop committing crimes.
     
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    Sounds like they probably have a solid case on both fronts. What's shifting is the Republicans' interpretation of these things, they first denied them, now that it seems like Mueller's case is being made they question the legality of the charges instead.
     
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    The Forum’s Trump apologists are really stretching to grab the brass ring. Just don’t hurt yourselves falling off your steeds. :)
     
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    Obstruction has always been on the table. Why do you think it's shifting? Or better yet - why do you think it's one or the other.

    It's becoming clear Mueller's found nothing on collusion? How do you figure? What's your evidence of that?
     
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    It's not become clear at all. One, both or neither could be true, and we certainly aren't further away from collusion than we were when we started.
     
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    I mean I'm all for letting the chips fall where they may, I really don't care what happens to Trump. Jr already pretty much confessed to attempt to collude by setting up the meeting with the Russian national to get "dirt" on Hillary. Credit him for being forthcoming but it doesn't change the fact that he was willing to play ball.
     
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    We've had pretty clear evidence of collusion since Don Jr. released his emails about meeting with a "Russian government attorney" with "very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump..." and 45 lied to cover it up.
     
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    This is typical of how Trumpsters in PRSI cope with the outright lawlessness of their hero. Trump does something, like a public display of witness tampering, but they criticize the media for the ensuing, totally justified outrage. It's not that Trump did anything wrong, the media was wrong to point it out.
     
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    I'm really hoping Trump goes down, but there has to be something criminal that torpedoes him. When Mueller's report comes out it will no doubt be politically annihilating, but whether there's anything to criminally nail him to a wall may very well be iffy.

    When the report comes out I'm certain those who are staunch opponents of Trump will be foaming at the mouth, but understand that this report is essentially one side of the argument. It's like a prosecutor putting on his case with zero cross or defense present. If you give an average US prosecutor unlimited resources and time he/she could make the Pope out to be a sex trafficker. With that said if the report doesn't satisfy the left they will scream the investigation was tainted, if the report nails Trump to a wall his supporters will continue to scream witch hunt and that there is no proof a single vote was switched. For those of us who don't have a dog in the fight or any biases we'll just sit back with the popcorn and get entertained for the next 6-9mos.
     
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    omg, they are acting like the democrats overlooking Hillary.............. how DARE they.......:mad:
     
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    Whether something gets pinned to Trump or not - Trump will still call it a witch hunt. Say that he was framed (or a variant) and his base will continue to believe his lies. He has been committed assaults on our democracy in front of their eyes on almost a daily basis. And they (his base) do not care. Trump will always play the victim card. Years from now, he will continue to play the victim card. Mueller investigation or not - the man is morally and ethically corrupt.

    I'm not sure Dems will call foul or that the investigation was tainted. But perhaps you're right. We see things like Trump's recent tweets which can be construed as obstruction which may never be questioned. So for that reason, I can see those who oppose Trump angered and continued to be angered. But for me, I have always said I would accept Mueller's investigation and the outcome. Even if I do disagree with the outcome.
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    Have you started charging her rent?
     
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    no need to pay rent at GITMO;)
     
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    Trumps going to be Trump and his supporters are sheep who will follow him down the rabbit hole blindly. Why anyone bothers to try and make them see different is beyond me. Which isn't that different from the democratic party, Clinton, and his supports defending him or ignoring A LOT.

    As far as his obstruction, charge him. Just be prepared for those to argue the precedent was set when Clinton was impeached but not convicted.
     
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    No comparison to collaborating with a hostile foreign government to influence an election and relaxing your party's platform and your country's policy toward that government in order to facilitate a business deal you've been trying to make for years.
     
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    oh you mean like getting Millions from Russia to get Uranium?
     
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    You are well aware that claim is a debunked conspiracy theory. Please stop purposely posting misinformation.
     
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    yeah, Putin loves to donate millions into foundations w/o getting anything in return for it..........:rolleyes:
     

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