Comey's memos allegedly contained classified info.


jpietrzak8

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This is old news. Comey himself stated during his testimony that only a few of his memos were written in such a way as to exclude classified information:

HEINRICH: The memos that you wrote, you wrote — did you write all nine of them in a way that was designed to prevent them from needing classification?

COMEY: No. On a few of the occasions, I wrote — I sent emails to my chief of staff on some of the brief phone conversations I had. The first one was a classified briefing. Though it was in a conference room at Trump Tower, it was a classified briefing. I wrote that on a classified device. The one I started typing in the car, that was a classified laptop I started working on.​

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/08/full-text-james-comey-trump-russia-testimony-239295

So everybody has known for at least a month now that some of Comey's memos contain classified info.
 
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Mmm, no.
These are the memos he leaked, not the emails and briefings he's talking about.
 
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Mmm, no.
These are the memos he leaked, not the emails and briefings he's talking about.
No, really! Heinrich asks specifically, "The memos that you wrote"; he even specifically mentions that there were nine memos in total. These nine memos are the ones Comey talks about, and they are the ones being discussed in the Hill article you quoted.
 

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I think if something were of consequence - it would have had teeth by now. I find it hard to believe that they are just getting around to looking at the memos and determining what is or was not classified. That would seem backwards given he's testified.
 

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Comey is a goofball and a dirtbag. I don't care to see him in trouble, but after watching that pathetic display of contradictory dialogue, I'd be surprised if he didn't screw up.
 

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Comey is a goofball and a dirtbag. I don't care to see him in trouble, but after watching that pathetic display of contradictory dialogue, I'd be surprised if he didn't screw up.

He's also tall, very, very tall. Trump doesn't like people taller than him! ;):eek:
 
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I think if something were of consequence - it would have had teeth by now.
I thought the name of the game in journalism these days is to keep digging in the hope that you find the teeth even though you've come up dry for over a year...
 
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I thought the name of the game in journalism these days is to keep digging in the hope that you find the teeth even though you've come up dry for over a year...
Some things are more black and white. Other things require an investigation. Whether or not Comey divulged classified information is pretty cut and dry.
 

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This story is b/s, pure and simple.

Senator Blunt - a Republican - is trying to deflect attention from where it really belongs: President Trump's pretty blatant attempt to obstruct Justice in the investigation of Michael Flynn and his own links to Russia.

Blunt is doing this by adding a peculiar ex post facto definition of what is, and what isn't, classified material. Remember, these memos weren't official FBI documents, put together from confidential sources, or the work product of Agents and analysts. These were the personal recollections of fmr. Director Comey himself. In that respect, they are no more "classified material" than the personal diaries that millions of ordinary people keep. Senator Blunt is suggesting that, as a result of his high position within the FBI itself, literally anything that Comey wrote down could become technically classified information.

That is an absurd standard for "classified information." On that standard, no former Government official - from ex-Presidents to former enlisted soldiers- could ever write down or discuss any event that took place during their time of service. Now: Some former intelligence and military officials are required to submit their memoirs for review prior to publishing them. But in no case that I can recall, was any such official required to keep their rough drafts or working notes of such documents in Government-approved secure storage.

Keep your eyes on the birdie kids. And don't fall for this sad little attempt to divert your attention from the real issue here: The slam-dunk Obstruction of Justice case against Donald Trump.
 

jpietrzak8

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This story is b/s, pure and simple.
Actually, no, it's not BS, nor is it pure or simple. Comey himself has noted that only some of his memos were written in such a way as to avoid classified information; others did include classified information, and those were not made public (despite what is implied in that Hill article).

The problem, of course, is that defining what is classified and what is not, what is owned by the FBI and what is not, and what Comey could do either when he was an employee of the government or when he was an unemployed citizen, is somewhat complicated. Comey's creation and handling of these documents can indeed be put under question. So far as I can tell, however, Comey has more-or-less stayed on the side of the law in his actions, however unseemly it may be to the GOP to see Trump's interactions with his subordinates revealed.
 

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This story is b/s, pure and simple.

Senator Blunt - a Republican - is trying to deflect attention from where it really belongs: President Trump's pretty blatant attempt to obstruct Justice in the investigation of Michael Flynn and his own links to Russia.

Blunt is doing this by adding a peculiar ex post facto definition of what is, and what isn't, classified material. Remember, these memos weren't official FBI documents, put together from confidential sources, or the work product of Agents and analysts. These were the personal recollections of fmr. Director Comey himself. In that respect, they are no more "classified material" than the personal diaries that millions of ordinary people keep. Senator Blunt is suggesting that, as a result of his high position within the FBI itself, literally anything that Comey wrote down could become technically classified information.

That is an absurd standard for "classified information." On that standard, no former Government official - from ex-Presidents to former enlisted soldiers- could ever write down or discuss any event that took place during their time of service. Now: Some former intelligence and military officials are required to submit their memoirs for review prior to publishing them. But in no case that I can recall, was any such official required to keep their rough drafts or working notes of such documents in Government-approved secure storage.

Keep your eyes on the birdie kids. And don't fall for this sad little attempt to divert your attention from the real issue here: The slam-dunk Obstruction of Justice case against Donald Trump.
Actually, no, it's not BS, nor is it pure or simple. Comey himself has noted that only some of his memos were written in such a way as to avoid classified information; others did include classified information, and those were not made public (despite what is implied in that Hill article).

The problem, of course, is that defining what is classified and what is not, what is owned by the FBI and what is not, and what Comey could do either when he was an employee of the government or when he was an unemployed citizen, is somewhat complicated. Comey's creation and handling of these documents can indeed be put under question. So far as I can tell, however, Comey has more-or-less stayed on the side of the law in his actions, however unseemly it may be to the GOP to see Trump's interactions with his subordinates revealed.
By some accounts - if personal recollections are classified based on government role - Trump is going to be screwed over by his twitter feed ;)
 

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Actually, no, it's not BS, nor is it pure or simple. Comey himself has noted that only some of his memos were written in such a way as to avoid classified information; others did include classified information, and those were not made public (despite what is implied in that Hill article).
It's the old Republican conflation game. Comey wrote some memos. Some of which contained classified information, some of which did not. The fact that the ones he made public didn't have classified information is something the Republicans hope that ordinary Americans lose track of. It's exactly what they did to Hillary Clinton.

As long as dullards hear the words "classified information" and "leaked" in the same sentence, they'll jump to the wrong conclusion, which is what the Republicans want you to do.
 

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Ignore this Comey story. Trump brought up Comey again because his son (junior) was exposed and he can't get his story straight.

Trump wants us to be distracted.
 
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It's the old Republican conflation game. Comey wrote some memos. Some of which contained classified information, some of which did not. The fact that the ones he made public didn't have classified information is something the Republicans hope that ordinary Americans lose track of. It's exactly what they did to Hillary Clinton.

As long as dullards hear the words "classified information" and "leaked" in the same sentence, they'll jump to the wrong conclusion, which is what the Republicans want you to do.
The conclusion is the right one. The FBI is asserting that ALL of the memos are government property, not James Comey's personal diary notes. It's in the OP's article.
 

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The conclusion is the right one. The FBI is asserting that ALL of the memos are government property, not James Comey's personal diary notes. It's in the OP's article.
However, the FBI is not asserting that all the memos contain classified information. Nor does the OP's article state that any memos containing classified info were released to the media. The accusation is simply worded in a clever manner to make people believe that.

Trump's accusation, of course, is a total lie. But then he watched the Fox News report based on the Hill article, and so I can forgive him for reaching the conclusion they implied. It's kinda sad that our commander in chief can fall so easily for fake news, though.
 
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However, the FBI is not asserting that all the memos contain classified information. Nor does the OP's article state that any memos containing classified info were released to the media. The accusation is simply worded in a clever manner to make people believe that.

Trump's accusation, of course, is a total lie. But then he watched the Fox News report based on the Hill article, and so I can forgive him for reaching the conclusion they implied. It's kinda sad that our commander in chief can fall so easily for fake news, though.
Unauthorised dissemination of government records, in this case of the FBI, is illegal, classified or unclassified.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/641