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John-F

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Many of the concerns are about the price along with questioning the need for 512GB. If you follow many of the disciplines associated with graphics, photography, video, audio, etc., then you know increasingly sophisticated and even professional software has expanded to include mobile devices.

Consider the suite of Adobe Creative Cloud products. For example, Lightroom morphed into two versions, the traditional desktop version, Lightroom Classic, and a new Creative Cloud version with specific optimization for mobile devices.

The XS Max screen size and quality, the improvements in the camera system, and the increased storage are consistent with the increasingly complex uses for this "phone". Phone is in quotes because it really has been come a convenient form factor for uses far beyond a phone. Considering other devices that can be used in this same way, the MacBook and MacBook Air each can have 512 GB, it is not a stretch to consider that memory in the iPhone.

While the laptops have flexibility and power beyond the iPhone, the portability of the iPhone XS Max 512GB comes with a price often associated with the smaller form factor.
 

Freakonomics101

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This is my comment... less than 1/3 of what I owe right now on my car. What do you think I would use that money for? Lol.
 

Freakonomics101

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512GB on a phone is completely unnecessary. There’s this thing called the cloud. Use it.
Correct. I have the 256 GB X and I have only used 90 GB. I have a crap ton of music, photos/videos and apps. It’s nice to have peace of mind with memory but 512 is just going overboard. But people will buy it anyway.
 

John-F

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512GB on a phone is completely unnecessary. There’s this thing called the cloud. Use it.
It is obviously unnecessary for you. Using the cloud involves internet connectivity that does not always exist, especially on long trips to out-of-the-way places.
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Correct. I have the 256 GB X and I have only used 90 GB. I have a crap ton of music, photos/videos and apps. It’s nice to have peace of mind with memory but 512 is just going overboard. But people will buy it anyway.
Maybe you don't realize others have uses or potential uses completely different than yours.
 

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This is my comment... less than 1/3 of what I owe right now on my car. What do you think I would use that money for? Lol.
This is the only comment that makes sense in this thread. The rest are people saying "its completely unnecessary" when what they mean is "its completely unnecessary for ME".

Its an option that you don't have to buy. Don't need it? Don't buy it. Simple.
 

jsmitty

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128gb would be the sweet spot for me but I’m sure some can use 512. Options are good.

The prices are getting really high but I keep “it’s only $6 more a month” myself to death on the IUP. They’ll be offering 60 month financing before too long.
 

BasicGreatGuy

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512GB on a phone is completely unnecessary. There’s this thing called the cloud. Use it.
What about professional photography and video use? Just because you don’t see a logical need, that doesn’t negate the fact that each person has different needs. There is no one size fits all “ it’s wrong to get 512GB storage” answer.
 

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512GB on a phone is completely unnecessary. There’s this thing called the cloud. Use it.
Nothing is unnecessary. There is never too much for having a lot of storage space. When no WiFi or cellular connection, having things offline is precious. Using free WiFi is not recommended due to the high risk of getting hacked while trying to getting something in iCloud.
 
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1050792

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512GB on a phone is completely unnecessary. There’s this thing called the cloud. Use it.
Depends, for example for someone who doesn't trust the cloud to Store their data or someone like me who's stuck with low speed connection, I can't rely on the Cloud so if I have a lot of data I want to have the highest capacity phone available to store it.
 

John-F

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If the various iPhone models had different names, different form factors, and different marketing, the question would never come up. Consider Canon DSLRs that range from the Rebel at $600 to the 1DX-Mark II at $6000. Does anyone who only needs a Rebel complain about Canon charging $6000 for a professional camera?

If the iPhone came in only 1 model with 1 configuration, then the complaints would make sense. But with the range of new iPhones from the XR to the XS Max, each with a number of configurations, then it is not logical to complain about features you don't need and don't have to pay for.

I think some of the complaints are from people who want to say they have the top-end model, but don't need it or want to pay for it.
 
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jsmitty

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If the various iPhone models had different names, different form factors, and different marketing, the question would never come up. Consider Canon DSLRs that range from the Rebel at $600 to the 1DX-Mark II at $6000. Does anyone who only needs a Rebel complain about Canon charging $6000 for a professional camera?

If the iPhone came in only 1 model with 1 configuration, then the complaints would make sense. But with the range of new iPhones from the XR to the XS Max, each with a number of configurations, then it is not logical to complain about features you don't need and don't have to pay for.

I think some of the complaints are from people who want to say they have the top-end model, but don't need it or want to pay for it.
Think of them as comments not complaints.
 

unobtainium

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What about professional photography and video use? Just because you don’t see a logical need, that doesn’t negate the fact that each person has different needs. There is no one size fits all “ it’s wrong to get 512GB storage” answer.
Nah. If you’re a professional photographer you should have a DSLR. The iPhone takes great casual shots now, but can you imagine showing up to photograph a wedding and you pull out your iPhone? Lol.
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Depends, for example for someone who doesn't trust the cloud to Store their data or someone like me who's stuck with low speed connection
If you don’t trust the cloud, set up 2-factor authentication and all of that. If you STILL don’t trust the cloud, you’re paranoid and/or don’t trust Apple in which case you should stop using their stuff.

If you’re stuck with a low-speed connection fine, I get that. But most places in the US that just isn’t an issue anymore.
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Using the cloud involves internet connectivity that does not always exist, especially on long trips to out-of-the-way places.
So download the songs and files you’ll want on the road before you leave. I do it all the time.
 

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Nah. If you’re a professional photographer you should have a DSLR. The iPhone takes great casual shots now, but can you imagine showing up to photograph a wedding and you pull out your iPhone? Lol.
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If you don’t trust the cloud, set up 2-factor authentication and all of that. If you STILL don’t trust the cloud, you’re paranoid and/or don’t trust Apple in which case you should stop using their stuff.

If you’re stuck with a low-speed connection fine, I get that. But most places in the US that just isn’t an issue anymore.
Why should I stop using their stuff if I don't trust their Cloud? What does their Cloud have to do with the Software and Hardware they offer? It's not being paranoid it's being careful. I don't trust my Data in any cloud service but you are free to do so. I was explaining to you of one of the reasons 512GB of storage is needed for some, just because it isn't to you doesn't mean it isn't for someone else, just like the Cloud.
 
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John-F

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Nah. If you’re a professional photographer you should have a DSLR. The iPhone takes great casual shots now, but can you imagine showing up to photograph a wedding and you pull out your iPhone? Lol.
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If you don’t trust the cloud, set up 2-factor authentication and all of that. If you STILL don’t trust the cloud, you’re paranoid and/or don’t trust Apple in which case you should stop using their stuff.

If you’re stuck with a low-speed connection fine, I get that. But most places in the US that just isn’t an issue anymore.
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So download the songs and files you’ll want on the road before you leave. I do it all the time.
You can make valid cases where the features are not needed, and you can define workarounds that have existed supporting that. But that doesn't mean the workarounds are convenient or preferred for others.

As far as professional photographers - I shoot sports and carry around heavy DSLRs and even heavier lenses usually supported by monopods. I would of course never consider any iPhone when shooting a football game. But for casual use, I don't want to carry around that equipment. For a shot that I would otherwise miss, using the iPhone is very convenient. Even at times for a candid shot, I can if needed post-process and include that in my something I might use professionally.

Bottom line - you know best what works for you, but you don't know best what works for others. Do you have the wisdom to understand the difference?
 
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unobtainium

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Even at times for a candid shot, I can if needed post-process and include that in my something I might use professionally.

Bottom line - you know best what works for you, but you don't know best what works for others. Do you have the wisdom to understand the difference?
I still don’t get it. You can take that candid shot and edit on your device if you use iCloud Photos. It intelligently will offload older photos that haven’t been accessed in a long time and the shot you just took (or any other shot in your library) will be available for editing when you open it.

It’s not that I don’t understand people have different preferences. It’s that I think people are not aware of just how seamless and easy cloud storage is now. There aren’t any “workarounds” necessary, it does it for you. As long as you have connectivity.
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Why should I stop using their stuff if I don't trust their Cloud?
Because that implies you don’t trust Apple. If Apple wanted to, they could access a ton of information about you and your device. So why would you use Apple stuff at all if you’re that paranoid?
 

John-F

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I still don’t get it. You can take that candid shot and edit on your device if you use iCloud Photos. It intelligently will offload older photos that haven’t been accessed in a long time and the shot you just took (or any other shot in your library) will be available for editing when you open it.

It’s not that I don’t understand people have different preferences. It’s that I think people are not aware of just how seamless and easy cloud storage is now. There aren’t any “workarounds” necessary, it does it for you. As long as you have connectivity.
I'm not saying your solutions are bad, but they are your solutions. We all do things differently and the options are a good thing. I don't think much more need be said about it.
 
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I still don’t get it. You can take that candid shot and edit on your device if you use iCloud Photos. It intelligently will offload older photos that haven’t been accessed in a long time and the shot you just took (or any other shot in your library) will be available for editing when you open it.

It’s not that I don’t understand people have different preferences. It’s that I think people are not aware of just how seamless and easy cloud storage is now. There aren’t any “workarounds” necessary, it does it for you. As long as you have connectivity.
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Because that implies you don’t trust Apple. If Apple wanted to, they could access a ton of information about you and your device. So why would you use Apple stuff at all if you’re that paranoid?
I can use any device without trusting the company who sells it, it's not like Apple is some sort of magic powder in which we can fully trust and embrace.
 

Ta0jin

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I have a 256gb X and I still have 147gb left and I have a crap ton of apps I don’t even use and could be deleted off my phone. 512gb is like having a huge house and I’m the only one living there lol. Not bashing those who ordered/need it but it’s just not for me.
 

unobtainium

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Local storage beats the cloud any day of the week.

Speed, size, bandwidth usage, local manipulation are all things that suck with cloud storage.
If you have unlimited high-speed data, then none of those are drawbacks. I guess that's the deciding factor.
 

comptr

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Yeah, lots of people do. It's so unnecessary. And Apple gouges on storage prices.
Also I use my iPhone and iPad to connect it to my Mirrorless cameras via wifi so that I can transfer the pics and I have a lot of apps on my phone, around 400 apps and a ton of music. Plus I store all of my podcasts, audio books and some tv shows that I buy on iTunes.
 
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