Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

4sallypat

macrumors 603
Original poster
HP’s $600 OmniBook 3 OLED laptop is an attractive MacBook Neo alternative with impressive 40 hr battery

HP released this lower price point Windows laptop to compete with the Neo.

Screenshot 2026-08-24 at 6.37.30 AM.png

HP
 
Yeah i agree just a cheap clone trying to keep up!
Have you seen the laptop? Handled the laptop? The answer is no. Your feelings are based on nothing.

When the NEO arrived everyone stated that the competition needed to catch up. Well the competition has and all you can say is “trying to keep up”. HP did exactly what people said the competition needed to accomplish. HP upped the ante by providing more ports, OLED display, higher resolution, and longer battery life. For less than the NEO.

Every laptop is a clone in some way. Same shape, same keyboard, trackpad, etc.

The same minimal mindset surrounded the NEO when it was released. Not good enough, bad display, not enough memory, yada yada yada. Yet the NEO sold extremely well as it was what the people wanted.
 
....
The same minimal mindset surrounded the NEO when it was released. Not good enough, bad display, not enough memory, yada yada yada. Yet the NEO sold extremely well as it was what the people wanted.
Yup, all the Neo haters came out and bashed it when it first was announced.

With many happy Neo owners and the outstanding sales numbers - it worked for common people (consumers).

I still love my Neo - does what it was designed for and then some.

My Neo and my wife's Neo are going on an international trip to Vietnam later this year and will report back.
 
This machine case is made entirely of plastic, the screen is awful, track pad nasty feeling (diving board with pivot at the top) and the keyboard highly dubious (I looked at one as I was considering a Windows laptop to run some Windows only apps I have so I did not have to use my Windows desktop machine). It is also an ARM based Windows machine which means it runs any apps that are only available as Intel machine coded versions in emulation mode which is often very slow.

The Neo on the other hand feels like a well made reliable machine which beats this particular Windows machine on all usability and reliability counts. The Neo is better made, has a better screen, keyboard and trackpad. It does not have the ports of the HP, but at this level that is almost irrelevant. And the Neo runs all MacOS apps (currently including Intel apps via Rosetta - which is going away after MacOS 27), unlike the HP which will only run ARM based apps reliably and at close to normal speed.

This is not a Neo for the Windows world. It is just a cheap Windows machine, end.
 
Last edited:
This is not a Neo for the Windows world. It is just a cheap Windows machine, end.
Seems like the same criticism lobbed at the NEO when it was released with comparisons to the Air and Pro. Bad screen, trackpad not good, not enough memory, no backlit keyboard, not enough ports, one port too slow, not future proof, not enough configurations, etc.

Basically, people enjoy complaining and finding fault, when in fact the comparisons are flawed.
 
I don't see anything compelling that would encourage me to try a Windows laptop.
Software might do it. The Mac version of AutoCAD is an utter travesty of UX compared to the Windows version and there is still no Mac version of Revit.

Still, it does mean having to put up with Windows 11....
 
Software might do it. The Mac version of AutoCAD is an utter travesty of UX compared to the Windows version and there is still no Mac version of Revit.

Still, it does mean having to put up with Windows 11....
Software is definitely one reason. The Windows version has more functionality than the Mac version.
 
HP used to sell a Stream laptop with 4GB and an Intel N150 processor... not particularly useful on Windows 11 Home.

This Qualcomm Snapdragon OmniBook 3 is a slight improvement, but ARM processors may introduce compatibility problems with x86 native applications in Windows - and we'll have to wait and see how the OmniBook tests in performance and battery life once it's released.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Technerd108
Seems like the same criticism lobbed at the NEO when it was released with comparisons to the Air and Pro. Bad screen, trackpad not good, not enough memory, no backlit keyboard, not enough ports, one port too slow, not future proof, not enough configurations, etc.

Basically, people enjoy complaining and finding fault, when in fact the comparisons are flawed.
I wasn’t comparing this machine to more expensive more functional machines, I was comparing it to the Neo. Of course the Neo has compromises. This HP machine has compromises when compared to its more expensive compatriots. But my point was that this HP machine is being compared to the Neo and it does not fare well. I certainly did not expect the Neo to be the same as an Air or Pro. What is important is the compromises made to achieve a certain price point and I feel the HP makes more unacceptable compromises than the Neo. I really could not care less about the other comments about the Neo and contrary to the point you make the comparison is both reasonable and fair.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sleep/to/dream
I wasn’t comparing this machine to more expensive more functional machines, I was comparing it to the Neo. Of course the Neo has compromises. This HP machine has compromises when compared to its more expensive compatriots. But my point was that this HP machine is being compared to the Neo and it does not fare well. I certainly did not expect the Neo to be the same as an Air or Pro. What is important is the compromises made to achieve a certain price point and I feel the HP makes more unacceptable compromises than the Neo. I really could not care less about the other comments about the Neo and contrary to the point you make the comparison is both reasonable and fair.
In your opinion. The HP beats the Neo in other aspects, aspects you do not value as much as someone else may.
 
40 hour battery life is obvious nonsense, but it's good to see better budget options on the PC side.

That being said, OLED feels pointless with only 300 nit brightness. That's where the PC guys just can't get out of the pointless spec game. They want a bullet point so the salesmen can go "THIS has an OLED SCREEN, it's BETTER" never mind that it isn't.
 
In your opinion. The HP beats the Neo in other aspects, aspects you do not value as much as someone else may.
Correct and I would never say otherwise. All comments here are based on opinions. There are factual aspects concerning the HP that are better, much better, than the Neo but, as indicated, overall I find the HP to be the inferior product for the indicated aspects of the HP I did not care for.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4sallypat
This machine case is made entirely of plastic, the screen is awful, track pad nasty feeling (diving board with pivot at the top) and the keyboard highly dubious (I looked at one as I was considering a Windows laptop to run some Windows only apps I have so I did not have to use my Windows desktop machine). It is also an ARM based Windows machine which means it runs any apps that are only available as Intel machine coded versions in emulation mode which is often very slow.

The Neo on the other hand feels like a well made reliable machine which beats this particular Windows machine on all usability and reliability counts. The Neo is better made, has a better screen, keyboard and trackpad. It does not have the ports of the HP, but at this level that is almost irrelevant. And the Neo runs all MacOS apps (currently including Intel apps via Rosetta - which is going away after MacOS 27), unlike the HP which will only run ARM based apps reliably and at close to normal speed.

This is not a Neo for the Windows world. It is just a cheap Windows machine, end.
Haven't tried this model so can't comment on the HW, but have been running Intel/AMD apps on ARM emulated is pretty fast on my Surface pro. Most standard apps (not games) you wouldn't know they are emulated.
 
40 hour battery life is obvious nonsense, but it's good to see better budget options on the PC side.

That being said, OLED feels pointless with only 300 nit brightness. That's where the PC guys just can't get out of the pointless spec game. They want a bullet point so the salesmen can go "THIS has an OLED SCREEN, it's BETTER" never mind that it isn't.
OLED nits and LED/LCD nits are slightly different and can't be compared side by side specswise. A 300 nits OLED is quite similar to a 500 nits LED/LCD screeen.
 
Haven't tried this model so can't comment on the HW, but have been running Intel/AMD apps on ARM emulated is pretty fast on my Surface pro. Most standard apps (not games) you wouldn't know they are emulated.
Interesting. I had a couple of Windows Intel only DAW apps that ran very badly on ARM machines. The latency was awful, hit a key and there was a perceptible delay. Made them unusable. Also some of my favorite utilities just plain did not run. MS Office was supposed to be OK early on but now of course they have native ARM apps. But my biggest issue was running SQL Server which was a disaster.

But I understand that for everyday stuff they might be acceptable, but anything that is interfacing to the outside world via ports or network connections seemed to be an issue except for native ARM apps of course.
 
Interesting. I had a couple of Windows Intel only DAW apps that ran very badly on ARM machines. The latency was awful, hit a key and there was a perceptible delay. Made them unusable. Also some of my favorite utilities just plain did not run. MS Office was supposed to be OK early on but now of course they have native ARM apps. But my biggest issue was running SQL Server which was a disaster.

But I understand that for everyday stuff they might be acceptable, but anything that is interfacing to the outside world via ports or network connections seemed to be an issue except for native ARM apps of course.
Was that the first ARM machines that was released (surface X with SQ1) or later versions? The only issue I have had so far was an odd issue with the PaloAlto client, the non ARM version didn't work.
Haven't had a stab at MS SQL server tho, I can imagine that you might run into problems there.
 
Software might do it. The Mac version of AutoCAD is an utter travesty of UX compared to the Windows version and there is still no Mac version of Revit.

Still, it does mean having to put up with Windows 11....
Anyone trying to run autocad and/or revit probably shouldn't be looking at base specs like the neo or this HP. I agree with your point overall, but I don't think it really applies to these types of machines.
 
  • Like
Reactions: macfacts
No. Windows laptop does not compete with MacBook Neo. It only competes with other comparable Windows laptops.

These posts are funny in a way, because no actual Mac user is going to switch to an HP laptop or Windows, just because it’s being sold in the same price range and product category.
 
No. Windows laptop does not compete with MacBook Neo. It only competes with other comparable Windows laptops.

These posts are funny in a way, because no actual Mac user is going to switch to an HP laptop or Windows, just because it’s being sold in the same price range and product category.
I think it does compete, namely with first-time computer purchasers. A student looking for something cheap to do their online assignments and send emails might consider this HP and a neo, for example. I do think that the operating system is the major difference in the two machines and makes the neo the better device by miles.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.