Concealed-carry permits skyrocket, especially for women

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023740786_concealedcarryrisexml.html

    glad to see the number of women who chose to protect themselves this way is up :)
     
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    Wait, I though Obama was going to take everyone's guns? I mean, he's had 6 years now, and gun ownership just keeps going up and up and up...

    What happened? :confused:
     
  3. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Obama has been the best salesman ever:D
     
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    Exactly. So why all the hate from the barrel-strokers?
     
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    Because the democrats keep trying to limit access.
     
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    I asked about Obama, not "the democrats".
     
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    Obama is a democrat, they are all lumped together just like the republicans are all lumped together
     
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    So republicans also want to take you guns, by that logic.
     
  9. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I did not say it was "logical", simply pointed out that republicans & democrats both get lumped together in some issues, guns/abortion/equal marriage being a few of them regardless of where some candidates stand on the issue

    At any rate, hope this goes a long way to deter crimes towards women
     
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    I never accused you of being logical.

    Without too much collateral damage.
     
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    No worries, I won't accuse you of being logical either

    You assume there will be collateral damage
     
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    It's funny - I've never heard of a plan to confiscate anyone's guns, but the hysteria sure sells a lot of them.

    As a person with a permit, but who almost never carries, I find the whole debate just sad.
     
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    And you assume there won't be?
     
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    And how, exactly, would this story have turned out better for this woman if she'd had a gun on her?

    The guy obviously wasn't a vicious and determined attacker. He was, most likely, an opportunistic burglar looking to score a few items to sell.

    What would have happened if this woman had drawn her gun on him? A lot of things are possible, but one possibility is that there would have been a scuffle and she could have ended up dead.

    The fact of the matter is that the USA is not undergoing a crime wave, with masses of random attacks on strangers, violent home invasions, etc. Just does not happen that much.

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    Sorry, but there is something incredibly sad about a society where people think they need to carry a pistol along with their infant child.

    And, BTW, this woman - by buying and keeping it in her home - has made it several times more likely that her child is going to grow up without one or both of its parents.

    Good Job, Gun Nuts. Why are you so unpleasant?
     
  15. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Are women unpleasant gun nuts simply because they decided to defend themselves as they saw fit?
     
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    Are democrats gun grabbers simply because they decided to defend the public health safety and welfare as they saw fit?
     
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    Answer my question first:

    How would this woman's story have turned out better if she'd had a gun on her?
     
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    I think he's waiting for the perfect time when we least expect it. You know, Obama is the anti-Christ and Illuminati rolled up into one. Of course, not only that, but I think he has free gym membership anywhere in Chicago! I think Nostradamus said, "There will be a man, of a first name and last name that is not known, but he will have the middle name of Hussein". Now if I was being sarcastic that's one thing, but people actually believe this. So far the president is a communist, fascist, Hitler, socialist, Islamic terrorist, warlord, librool, neo-con, and Chicago gangster.
     
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    Already stated I will not accuse you of being logical:D

    I don't see all democrats as the same.
     
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    It would have made no difference as the criminal left. She apparently decided that it is better to have a gun & not need it than to need it & not have it

    Your turn. Is she now an unpleasant gun nut because she made a personal choice?
     
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    OMG you're so funny, and original! Whoever writes your jokes deserves a raise. :D

    Well that's good. Glad we're clear on that.

    Wait, what's this?

    Oh.
     
  23. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Someone should read things to you. Never did I claim I lumped them together, I even gave you some examples of where they are lumped together. Oh should try reading. Few post back.
     
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    Ending the statement that way doesn't really invite genuine responses. In the cited link the burglar may have thought no one was home. While it may vary, it's unlikely that most burglars would want to turn themselves into murder suspects. The dog arguably helped too. I used to have a ridiculously smart rottweiler (early 2000s). It actually belonged to my roommate at the time, but I took care of it most of the time. I don't think anyone would have wanted to face that.
     
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    She a foolish person who is increasing the chances that her baby will be orphaned. Deny the statistics that show gun owners are five times more likely to end up dead as a result.

    If this woman risked her baby's life and health by smoking crack or driving drunk - we would (rightly) condemn her as unfit. But I guess keeping a deadly weapon eighteen inches from the kid is treated somehow differently.

    And I think the people who filled her head with their lies are scum of the worst order.
     

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