Connecticut Supreme Court Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage

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  1. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    While I know most of us here are busy discussing the endless freefall of the markets or the latest McCain/Palin move, I thought this would be a nice change of pace.

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    I don't think an explanation is really necessary, but the important part is that the Connecticut Supreme Court used the same rationale as the California Supreme Court, which means that it is likely to become the de facto standard for others states that will soon join in (I'm eyeing Vermont, Hawaii, Rhode Island, and New York as possible upcoming states to follow suit).

    I also think this will help Prop 8 be defeated, as Californians will realize that we are not alone and completely "out there." Independent/moderate voters will realize that the issue is more reasonable than the Yes on 8 people are making it seem.
     
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    It's all about equal protection at the end of the day. Plain and simple.
     
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    I know MA is a long way from California, but...
     
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    Good stuff!

    Hopefully we'll see more and more following suit
     
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    I think most people will vote for Prop 8.
     
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    And what is your rationale on that?

    Many people here would LOVE to hear this...

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  7. CalBoy thread starter macrumors 604

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    It really is, which is why the resistance to it always makes me a bit sad.

    If anything, conservatives should want gay people to get married, since married couples pay more in taxes and are more likely to be Republicans. :p
    I meant that with 3 states now supporting same-sex marriage, and with this coming so soon after California's decision, it will make it easier for Californians to reject Prop 8 (because they'll see same-sex marriage as more mainstream as opposed to just another wacky "liberal" idea).
     
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    I really hope that this is a domino effect. Not allowing same-sex marriage is silly. Way to go Connecticut.
     
  9. CalBoy thread starter macrumors 604

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    I hope not Gary. :(

    Maybe you should move out here just to cast a vote. ;) :p

    On this forum? I think most of the PRSI forum would vote "No" but I'm afraid that California is still on the cusp of voting "Yes." It's still up in the air, and that's why both sides are spending so much money.
     
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    This is what Gerald Ford used to tell the GOP, but he died before anyone would listen:
     
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    It will be moot when there is an amendment passed for a U.S. Constitutional Ban, these court decisions will only quicken the pace....:eek:
     
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    Because most people, though the numbers are going down, oppose it.


    CBS

    Gallup

    Washington Times
     
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    Probably won't happen, because of the 10th Amendment. And no politician will want to touch an issue at such a high level at the risk of losing their job.

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  14. CalBoy thread starter macrumors 604

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    You mean the ban that's been in the works for four years now? :rolleyes:

    It will never get out of committee, let alone pass with 2/3rds in both houses.

    Oh yeah, and then there's the matter of getting 38 states to agree with it.

    Instead, the US Supreme Court in a matter of 10-15 years will affirm California, Connecticut, and Massachusetts and take down one more brick in the wall of bigotry that we have in American society.

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    Anuba, that's an interesting find, although not too surprising. Ford always was more rational than the Neo-Conservatives of the post-Reagan age.

    Gary, those are national polls. In California it's still a toss-up, because before the Pro 8 guys began to run negative and false ads, the prop was failing quite nicely.
     
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    This is excellent news to here, definitley a step in the right direction. It will take time but eventually the other states will come around.

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    Which none of the stories you've used, reference any person living or voting for the initiative in California. If it fails there (which I believe it will and will be voting as such), everything you say here will be moot.

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    Are Californians not Americans? :confused:

    Christ it's hostile in this place anymore.

    Anyway, it does look like the recent California polls show people opposing the prop.

    I WANT it to fail, just cynical about it happening.
     
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    This is great news for Connecticut.

    Here in Arizona, it's more than likely Prop 102 will pass, which will constitutionally ban gay marriage in the state. I didn't expect anything else from Arizona though. This is an awful place to live.
     
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    Those damn Mormons are doing everything they can to get it to pass. It's been tightening significantly in the last couple of weeks. My wife and I are mailing out our "no" votes this weekend.

    Good luck with that. The wingnuts have been promising that for decades, and it's gotten near-zero traction. Even with a GOP president and GOP majorities in Congress, it didn't get anywhere.

    When will you realize that you religious zealots are getting played like fiddles by the GOP on these social issues? Bush got huge majorities of the religious conservatives to back him, you'd think he would have owed them one? Nope, he was too busy giving the love to Wall Street, not to the religious wrong.
     
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    I'm 100% for gay marriage but I expect this to help McCain's poll numbers.

    Whenever another state's court legalizes same-sex marriage in an election year the GOP gets ammunition for talking about "Activist Judges" and their opposition to same sex marriage.

    I'm happy Connecticut did this, but it will give McCain a small boost (hopefully it's only a small boost)
     
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    According to your Avatar, perhaps you should move to Cuba...
     
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    I wasn't aware that Ho Chi Minh was Cuban.
     
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    I don't think the GOP has thought this through.

    While there are no exact stats on the percentage of gay people, it's generally accepted that at least 4% of the population is gay, and slightly higher among women. GOP is saying no thanks to potentially 4% of the votes. And it's not like they would lose a substantial amount of anti-gay voters, those voters wouldn't go to the Democrats in a million years anyway.

    Also, as more and more countries in the western world are changing laws to allow gay marriage, some Americans will emigrate and some foreign workers will be reluctant to immigrate.

    Last but not least, the GLBT crowd will shut the hell up, which should be a godsend to the religious right, who are probably more bothered by the attention-seeking than the actual gay activities.
     
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    Yes, but are all Americans Californians. ;)
     

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