Conservative group sues over Bin Laden death photos

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  1. Hugh macrumors 6502a

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    Are we really that blood thirsty that we need to see a photo of a person with was shot in the head?

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/13/bin.laden.photos.lawsuit/index.html?hpt=T2

    Bold mine.

    I think this group has other issues if they are "harmed" by not seeing the photo/videos. :confused: I would think seeing the photo WOULD cause harm because of it being so graphic. :/

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  2. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    There are two sides to this.

    On the one hand, the Administration does not need to release the photos because there isn't much to be gained from them besides getting the crazies whipped up into an even crazier fervor.

    On the other hand, the Administration must release the photos since someone has requested them under the Freedom of Information Act and they wouldn't reveal a state secret or otherwise harm the US's strategic position since we all know he's already dead.
     
  3. AP_piano295 macrumors 65816

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    I don't think these need to be released but the law is the law. So I guess they "should" be released, freedom of information needs to apply to everything or it doesn't apply to anything.
     
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    Ideally, they would hold on to the photos for a while and then show them when the hubbub dies down I guess. It's not like they won't eventually get leaked in this day and age.

    Not sure if it is ILLEGAL to not show them, though. LOL @ "irreparably harmed."
     
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    I agree, trying to selectively apply the Act sets a bad precedent.

    As was already pointed out, the photo description doesn't sound like it reveals anything that we don't already know.
     
  6. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    Didn't I hear something during the '08 campaign about the most transparent administration ever, or something like that?

    Maybe they want to see for themselves that he's dead. There are those who think the government's story/stories surrounding OBL's death reek of old tuna.
     
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    What's next, is someone going to file a FOIA request for bin Laden's porn collection? :rolleyes:
     
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    I agree with this, I think it would be better if people let the administration keep these from being released, but since people have made the FOIA request it would set a bad precedent to not release them.
     
  9. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    If that was the case, a picture wouldn't necessarily be the only (or even always sufficient) evidence for that.

    However, I was referring to the Muslim extremists who will no doubt use the picture as a rallying cry to enlist more cannon fodder.

    It wasn't so long ago that a cartoon accomplished the same thing.

    Now of course I think Obama should follow the law and release the picture (hence why I put emphasis on "must"), but I'm not entirely certain that that would be a wise political move in an international policy sense.
     
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    It's my observation that practically anything will get Muslim extremists riled up.
     
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    So the Birthers found a new cause célèbre? Geez, that was quick :rolleyes:
     
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    Fix that for you.

    Anyway, the law is the law.
     
  14. Arran macrumors 68040

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    Cut from the same cloth.
     
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    I think they should allow supervised viewing of the photograph(s) to media organisations - but without releasing them or allowing publication.

    Invite a load of journalists to verify (to whatever extent you can verify that it's not a photoshop job) then report on it.

    Keeping the photos unreleased just increases speculation.
     
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    Wouldn't work: Too many Doubting Thomases with too much free time on their (idle) hands.
     
  17. quagmire macrumors 603

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    How has releasing Obama's long-form birth certificate worked out? These people will never believe the government stories.

    These idiots will never be satisfied so why feed into them?
     
  18. firestarter macrumors 603

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    Well.

    Trump's rating has gone through the floor.
     
  19. quagmire macrumors 603

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    They were going through the floor before Obama released the BC.

    I was talking about the crazies though. They think it is fake because it has layers. You can never satisfy the crazies. If they released the photo's I bet within an hour there will be a youtube video of these people with an "expert" and say they were photoshopped.

    I also agree that the terrorists will use the photo's to recruit more people.
     
  20. Repo, May 14, 2011
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    The release of the photos coincide with the sunshine laws.
     
  21. Huntn macrumors G5

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    If these items are classified, I believe they can be withheld.
     
  22. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Agreed. If they are classified, they can be withheld.

    As for FOIA, they could harm the country's strategic position. Think of retaliation, especially when those photos are released.. and they won't have to go far to do so: We are still in Iraq. We are still in Kuwait. We are still in Afghanistan, and Helmond in particular. Yes, there will be a lot of grandstanding about it, but the fact remains that unless classified, the public does not know how extensive Al Qaeda's network spans.

    Outside of that, IIRC, the Geneva Conventions prohibit the release of it.

    BL.
     
  23. skunk macrumors G4

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    When did that start being a problem? :confused:
     
  24. bradl macrumors 68040

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    When the POTUS started to respect and follow the laws that we abide by, unlike some other Presidents... ;)

    BL.
     
  25. Huntn macrumors G5

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    The fantasy question is, if it was a Republican Administration in power, would the pics have been released and if not would this "Conserfartive" group be pushing this? Just ignore this reply. :p
     

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