Just found out my next door neighbour has tested positive after he noticed he’d lost his sense of taste. Him and his family now can’t leave the house for 14 days. I seem to know quite a few people now who have had this crappy virus.
I hate breaking my word to myself.
You're assuming the vast majority of the worldwide medical community voluntarily agrees with their superiors and with politicians on this very political matter (this is not a pandemic; the survival rate proves it; but just watch: Most flu deaths this winter will be labeled "Covid deaths," just as in Sioux Falls my cousin's friend's aneurysm death was listed as a Covid death; that is common practice in hospitals); or is it possible that most medical professionals are just remaining silent, so they don't get fired like Dr. Gold did? Contrary to your implications and wishful thinking, these aren't just a bunch of inexperienced medical quacks who are speaking out in the U.S. and Europe, regardless of their particular fields of expertise. If these few doctors are brave enough to speak out, then think of all of those who agree with them but are afraid to join them.
I've worked with lots of people at different jobs in my life, and almost all of them were so determined to keep their jobs that they agreed with policies publicly that they didn't agree with privately. I worked in a school with an absolutely corrupt superintendent, budget director and technology director. Every principal and teacher in the entire school district complained privately, but when it came time to take a stand at a public meeting one night, which they had all agreed to hold, none of them showed up (I and, I think, one other person were there), because they feared retribution. They preferred to suffer with the corruption and the major inconveniences brought about by that corruption rather than suffer retribution or lose their jobs, even though it was the students who ultimately suffered the consequences of that corruption. I chose to stand up, and, as a result, I lost my job rather than put up with it ("budget cuts" and "reduction in force" were the excuses used). I proudly left because I had actually won my last battle with the superintendent (keeping Macs in the school district instead of his five-year-long plan to switch to Windows; Macs are still there to this day 18 years later). Much to the staff's credit, almost all of them signed a petition to the school board demanding that I be retained. They both won and lost. I was to be retained for one more year, but I would work in a different school in the district, directly under the corrupt technology director, and I was ordered never to help the staff of my original school ever again, no matter how often they might ask. I could help every school in the district, except that one. So, the staff had been right to be afraid. I knew what sort of hell that final year would be like for me, so I quit (my dad had just died anyway and left me with a nightmarish estate situation that I had to deal with).
I'm sure there is similar cowardice/pragmatism in the medical industry, as well as in every other industry.
Just found out my next door neighbour has tested positive after he noticed he’d lost his sense of taste. Him and his family now can’t leave the house for 14 days. I seem to know quite a few people now who have had this crappy virus.
Yeah, Loss of taste is one the most common symptoms that our region was reporting. They were just discussing that in my area (Along with the loss of smell), but it can be restored within a time range of two weeks, but can take as long as two months to have your taste sensations return. Just crazy.
Indeed, my friend who had it a few weeks back hasn’t got his taste or smell back yet so looks like it’ll be a while for him. My wife has been texting the next door neighbour and her husbands smell has come back already but not his taste. The rest of the family have no symptoms yet. The cases are apparently falling in my county but there are pockets where it’s worse. Thankfully although I know quite a few who have had it, nobody has lost their life.
My parents live in Oxfordshire and don’t know a single person affected by it. Mad how different areas see more than others. Back into full restricted lockdown for us in Wales on Friday again
You too mate, weird times. I just hope there is some light at the end of the tunnel soon.I know normal is not a word we can really use anymore, but it really makes you appreciate the sense of normalcy we used to have, where others still continue to exhibit sheer negligence under the worst conditions. Unreal. Stay tactful, we’re smarter than those who put themselves in a situation they can’t reverse.
Stay safe my friend, to you and yours.
I know normal is not a word we can really use anymore, but it really makes you appreciate the sense of normalcy we used to have...
Apparently South Dakota is doing really well up 30 percent. https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...s-us-cases-deaths/?itid=hp_pandemic-guide-boxWe still use the word "normal" here in South Dakota. With the exception of some national chain stores (which I will never patronize again) and some personal, individual choices, everything has remained completely normal here this year, just as it has in Sweden. Contrary to mainstream reports, our per capita death rate is less than half of that of the nation as a whole. This is true 1.) in spite of no mask mandates, no quarantines and no lock-downs; 2.) in spite of having had millions of out-of-state tourists this past summer who were very eager to experience "normal" life again, even if only for a few days (I live near Sturgis, where the motorcycle rally takes place). 3.) in spite of the fact that huge numbers of residents of neighboring states shop here all the time. Finally and equally importantly, a huge percentage of us rural SD residents work and shop in the big cities every day because we have no choice; therefore, contrary to what some may claim, there is lots of intermingling between our urban and rural populations (I will be working in Sturgis again on Friday, where the vast majority of people never got sick, in spite of the rally). We proudly use the word "normal" here as often as we can, even though we know it is entirely due to blind luck that we were spared the fate of most other states and nations. I'm sincerely thankful that Fate caused me to move back here to my home state two years ago, after having lived in a neighboring state for the previous 24 years.
Why can't anyone here see that I'm trying to be a voice of hope in a time of fear? I'm not trying to cause trouble or be a rabble rouser just to antagonize everyone. I'm just the opposite of that.
Finally, I've said this several times before, and I will now truly do it. In fact, I actually made the decision yesterday afternoon. I am doing it for the sake of my own peace of mind, as well as for the sake of this thread: I will no longer respond to anyone who frustrates me to such a degree that my own human weaknesses cause me to tread closely to where the rules don't allow. I have not overstepped those bounds with my medical and statistical information, but in my frustration-fueled replies to others, it isn't as easy to control myself. Hence, I will gladly no longer reply to any contrarian replies to my posts.
Please stop doing Silly Stats to push your agenda.Total U.S. COVID-19 deaths as of Oct. 27, 2020: 225,792. [PatientCareOnline]
1. of 2.) United States
Population:------330,512,000 [U.S. Census Bureau Population Clock]
CV19 deaths:----225,792
CV19 deaths:----0.07% of the population [Percentage Calculator]
2. of 2.) South Dakota (no mask, quarantine or lock-down laws)
Population:-------903,027 [World Population Review.com]
CV19 deaths:——375 [South Dakota Dept. of Health]
CV19 deaths:-----0.04% of the population [Percentage Calculator]
Keep in mind that a lot of deaths attributed to Covid-19 were not actually a result of Covid-19. A close friend of my cousin died of an aneurysm, but the hospital in Sioux Falls labelled it as "Covid-19." My cousin was furious. There are many stories like that one.
Yes, this. I'm sure there are some cases of non-covid deaths being reported as Covid, just as there are many cases of Covid deaths being reported as pneumonia. Anecdotes don't tell the story, though. Large-scale data does.Please stop doing Silly Stats to push your agenda.
First of all as to your deaths deaths attributed to Covid comment, realize average deaths over the last 5 years vs 2020, shows us that Covid-19 deaths are being largely UNDERREPORTED. Over 300,000 extra deaths this year so far and thats with the shutdowns causing a huge decrease in moter vehicle deaths, deaths in workplaces etc.
UPDATE (11:20 AM, Mountain Time): This entry has been even further edited to remove anything that could even remotely be labeled as "political."
The following are just a few quotes from a very long article by Dr. Michael Yeadon of the U.K.:
20 September 2020by Dr. Michael YeadonDr. Mike Yeadon is the former CSO and VP, Allergy and Respiratory Research Head with Pfizer Global R&D and co-Founder of Ziarco Pharma Ltd.[…]We now know that lockdown made no difference at all to the spread of the virus. We can tell this because the interval between catching the virus and, in those who don’t make it, their death is longer than the interval between lockdown and peak daily deaths. There isn’t any controversy about this fact, easily demonstrated, but I’m aware some people like to pretend it was lockdown that turned the pandemic...[…]As there is no foundational, medical or scientific literature which tells us to expect a ‘second wave’, I began to pay more attention to the phrase as it appeared on TV, radio and print media – all on the same day – and has been relentlessly repeated ever since. [...] Surely they have some evidence? [...] I searched — and am very qualified to do so —, drawing on academic friends, and we were all surprised to find that there is nothing at all.[…]A person’s sample can be positive if they have the virus, and so it should. They can also be positive if they’ve had the virus some weeks or months ago and recovered.[…]Because of the high false positive rate and the low prevalence, almost every positive test — a so-called "case" — identified by Pillar 2 since May of this year has been a FALSE POSITIVE. Not just a few percent. Not a quarter or even a half of the positives are FALSE, but around 90% of them. Put simply, [there] is an overestimate by a factor of about ten-fold. Earlier in the summer, it was an overestimate by about 20-fold.[…]…What is the probability a person testing positive in Pillar 2 actually has COVID-19? The awful answer is 11% (10 divided by 80 + 10). The test exaggerates the number of covid-19 cases by almost ten-fold (90 divided by 10). [...] That daily picture they show you, with the ‘cases’ climbing up on the right-hand side? It's horribly exaggerated.[…]…The Pillar 2 test will find half as many real cases from our notional 10,000 volunteers, so 5 real cases. But the flaw in the test means it will still find 80 false positives (0.8% of 10,000). So its even worse. The headline would be “85 new cases identified today”. But now the probability a person testing positive [actually] has the virus is an absurdly low 6% (5 divided by 80 + 5). Earlier in the summer, this same test exaggerated the number of COVID-19 cases by 17-fold (85 divided by 5). It's so easy to generate an apparently large epidemic this way. Just ignore the problem of false positives. Pretend its zero. But it is never zero.[…]The likelihood of an apparently positive case being a false positive is between 89-94%, or near-certainty.[…]The cases in summer and at present, generated by seriously flawed Pillar 2 tests, should be corrected downwards by around ten-fold.I do believe genuine cases are rising somewhat. This is, however, also true for flu, which we neither measure daily nor report on every news bulletin. If we did, you would appreciate that, going forward, it is quite likely that flu is a greater risk to public health than COVID-19.[…]There are very serious consequences arising from grotesque over-estimation of so-called cases in Pillar 2 community testing...
My next door neighbours are out of isolation and appear to have escaped with no long term effects of COVID. My friend still have no sense of taste and it’s a few weeks now for him. His wife and daughter are fine.
A guy at my work tested positive this week, but I haven’t been in contact with him as I’ve been working from home lately. They’ve abandoned the ‘tea rounds’ in their office during the day and everybody now makes their own drinks. Why that wasn’t the case already is anybody’s guess.
Lots of arguments in shops here at the moment as only essential items are allowed to be purchased. People can’t live without buying a lamp for their lounge or buy items off Amazon as it’s easier to start a fight with shop staff lol. The worlds gone mad lol.
People definitely need to be constantly reminded. I think this pandemic has exposed how selfish a lot of people are and how we need strict guidance just to employ basic common sense.I just read today that Europe has surpassed its 10 millionth Covid case. Just a staggering number to even comprehend on any level given since this pandemic rolled out in March.
But you know what I was thinking about earlier today, I listen to a respected infectious disease doctor in my state who lives about 20 minutes from me and a Epidemiologist, and they both talked about the exhaustion of having to repeat the same things on a daily basis to the public about social distancing, washing your hands, don’t touch your face, wear a mask, and then the cycle repeats itself with more of the same announcements. And then somebody asked the question, why do we need to constantly have this circular discussion of topics that we already know? Because if the health professionals (And like-minded who are tactful and smart) don’t establish the constant reminders of what to do, the general public seemingly thinks it’s ‘not a big deal’ anymore or they purposely forget going back to their old habits spreading the infection more.
I don’t mean to denigrate anyone, but it’s a lot like kindergarten, where the masses has to be reminded of what to do to make a positive impact, but they refuse to do it. It’s absolutely mind blowing in every which way.
Like you said, someone could easily order something online for the sake of convenience and have it in a very short amount of time delivered, but no, the simple minded people decide to put themselves in a crowded shopping mall and their health at risk over a pair of gloves for the winter.