I've been reading Macrumours for a while now and I have some things which are bugging/concerning me if I am going to buy a Mac which I need to get off my chest. I would be interested to hear your thoughts and I hope you can bear with me!! Firstly, don't get me wrong, I love Macs, they look great and I'd love to get away from Microsoft, but how can Apple expect to get PC users to come over to them when a top of the range PC costs about as much as a TV and a top of the range Mac costs as much as a small car?!! eg top of the range P4 £800 inc 17" monitor, top of the range Mac with similar specs £3000 with NO MONITOR!!! The only thing I can find to justify the price is gigabit ethernet (but who uses that anyway) - around £300 and the DVD-R - another £300. So where does the other £1500 go? It seems they come to a reasonable price and then double it! I agree with the whole megehertz myth phenomenon. I have an AMD 800 and have no plans to rush out and buy a pentium 2.5GHz. Instead I have fast hard disks and plenty of RAM. I have no problem with Macs stopping at 1GHz but one thing that concerns me are the subsystems, eg: Mac: PC100, UDMA 66(why?!!!!), 66 or 100MHz bus. PC: DDR266/DDR333/RAMBUS400, UDMA 100 standard, UDMA 133 now becoming common, 266MHZ bus at least. Now we all know that the processor speed is irrelevant if the system is waiting for the hard disk but it seems to me that having two processors that can process photoshop images really fast is pointless if you cant get them out of memory and onto the disk. Mac subsystems are basically 3 years out of date and half the speed of common PC subsystems. Disk speed is my main concern. Not so long ago I accidentally changed a setting in software that took my disks to UDMA66 instead of 100 - it made a HUGE very noticable difference in opening big apps/transferring files etc. I couldn't change it back fast enough. How does this work out for most of you? Do you find it a problem? Why havent apple updated them and are they likely to in the near future? Should I wait then? Thanks for your advice and I hope you realise Im not trying to put Macs down for the sake of it but trying to convince myself that it can't be as bad as it seems and they must have some tricks up their sleeves to make up for it all. Im sure you can understand that £3000 is a lot to spend on a "slower" computer! Or should I just forget it and buy 3 fully loaded P4 2GHz machines for the same money?