Could Force Touch mean the removal of the home button on the iPhone 7?

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  1. Ggvfvgbffbf macrumors member

    Sep 10, 2014
    Manchester, England
    I don't know much about Force Touch as I'm not interested in an Apple Watch. But from what I've seen does anyone think it could be a glimpse of the future in an 18 months away iPhone 7?

    If you could 'press down' on the screen to emulate what the home button does now then the bezels could be slimmed down while increasing the screen size to ~5.2" without actually changing the physical size of the phone.

    The only prob is integrating Touch ID into the screen. Is that poss in the timescale? How far along are Apple with that?
  2. chabig macrumors 603

    Sep 6, 2002
    It's intriguing, but how would you deal with unwanted "force touches" while the phone is in a pocket or purse? Would you take away the wake function of the home button?
  3. Caseynd macrumors regular


    Jun 17, 2008
    ND, USA
  4. BeeGood macrumors 68000


    Sep 15, 2013
    Lot 23E. Somewhere in Georgia.
    The only way I see the total removal of the physical home button happening is if they somehow find a way to make the entire screen sapphire. The TouchID sensor would have to be in the screen and Apple wouldn't (I hope?) release a new phone if touchID could be rendered useless with a couple minor scratches

    That said, I REALLY hope they do this. The 6 plus made me a believer and a liar. I said I would never want a bigger phone and here I am with this gorgeous 5.5" display. If the "smaller" model keeps the same form factor as the 6 and goes from 4.7" to 5ish...and is full HD, that would be the ideal phone.


    If I understand force touch correctly, it can tell if it is a finger and the action is actually a "finger press" as opposed to a butt press or something.

    If it can't, they can always do customized wake gestures, like a double tap or pattern that's less likely to activate the phone. Or like you said, just ditch the wake function all together and go with TouchID in the screen to wake/unlock.
  5. KUguardgrl13 macrumors 68020


    May 16, 2013
    Kansas, USA
    That would be really cool if they could do it with the 4.7" screen and make it smaller! I'd accept a phone with a bigger screen if it were the same size as my 5.
  6. ZEEN0j macrumors 65816


    Sep 29, 2014
    Don't have to. You can accidentally press the home button and wake the screen in your pocket. So nothing has changed. I like the idea.
  7. Bloodraw850 macrumors 6502


    Jul 12, 2011
  8. Nikhil72 macrumors 65816

    Oct 21, 2005

    I keep seeing people clamoring for TouchID in the screen, but capacitive touch in the screen is a very different technology than the high resolution camera/scanner-type capture used by TouchID. Until an alternative form of ID becomes available, the home button combo scanner is really the only logical option. Sure, they could maybe shrink it, but then it wouldn't accommodate all fingerprint diameters either.
  9. kmj2318 macrumors 68000


    Aug 22, 2007
    Naples, FL
    I think the Home button will be like the Force Touch trackpad in the new MacBook. It feels the pressure, and vibrates to make you believe you pressed a button. No moving parts.

    I don't understand the desire to completely remove the home button.
  10. rugmankc Contributor


    Sep 24, 2014
    I like the way it is, don't confuse me Apple.

    I seem to remember an older phone, I believe the Blackberry's when I owned them, having double tap or tap and hold. Kinda of remember not liking it. :)
  11. ArtVandelay29 macrumors regular

    Aug 12, 2014
    I'm all for anything that will get rid of the giant bezels. I love my 6 Plus but it's too tall due to the bezels.
  12. Brian Y macrumors 68040

    Oct 21, 2012
    I think the home button is here to stay.

    It's their design. If they wanted it gone, they could have long ago. Heck, they could have even made it so that the button was just a capacitive one if they wanted.
  13. madsci954 macrumors 68030

    Oct 14, 2011
    If it changes, all I can see happening is the mechanical click is removed, replacing with the tactic feedback, like in the new MacBook trackpad.
  14. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

    Oct 9, 2007
    They's deal with it the same way your ear and cheek don't cause unwanted presses when you talk on the phone. The screen "knows" where and how it's being touched.
  15. cambookpro macrumors 603


    Feb 3, 2010
    United Kingdom
    Not saying that it will happen on the iPhone 7 (I don't think it will) and not saying that all of Apple's patents make it into consumer products, but they do have a patent for embedding the fingerprint sensor into the screen. It's probably possible, just depends on how well it works, yield on components, how expensive it is etc:


    That's just because there's a proximity sensor and the phone's screen shuts off and is locked when you're calling someone and you hold it to your ear. It's nothing to do with the screen knowing where and how it's being touched unfortunately.
  16. MrXiro macrumors 68040


    Nov 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Only if you're a pervert to begin with... :p
  17. mjschabow macrumors 68020

    Dec 25, 2013
    I'd rather have my thumb print on my home button than all over my screen. Otherwise, there will be hundreds of "How do you wipe your phone?" threads popping up. My answer would always be "front to back" of course.
  18. MrXiro macrumors 68040


    Nov 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
    If they make the entire front of the phone Force Touch they could shrink the bezels but leave enough room for JUST the finger print sensor with some screen overlap and not have the physical button. If they did that just loosely judging by eye they could shave off another centimeter or 2 depending on how wide the camera lens of the touch ID sensor shoots.

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