Could this be the biggest victory in US history?

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  1. 1458279 Suspended

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  2. pdqgp macrumors 68020

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    Let those that want to leave the US do just that. Feel free to grab your guns and fight it out. There's a group of us more than ready. Or feel free to get on a boat like they did back in the day and go concur your own land.
     
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    That lady is a moron.

    @Scepticalscribe might notice that I criticized her without attacking something she innately is...oh wait...damnit!
     
  4. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    Oooh, you're in trouble now!
     
  5. pdqgp macrumors 68020

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    CA Democrat. Go figure.
     
  6. mobilehaathi macrumors G3

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    She really got under your skin, eh?
     
  7. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a

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    It's funny they use the term fringe. Only the fringe doesn't understand the electoral process. They also need to come to terms with the fact that their candidate wrote States off and lost them. By the way, her popular vote margin is about 2 million. Her margin in California alone is over 4 million. One State should not ever dictate the course of a nation. You want to see what America looks like without its electoral system? Look at The broken socialist State of California that brings us the likes of Nancy Pelosi. All smoke and mirrors and a debt problem on par with small socialist countries. Completely inundated with illegals.
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    Bubble dweller. Doesn't understand why her State doesn't run the Union. They're too accustomed to running the State into the ground without interference.
     
  8. pdqgp macrumors 68020

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    CA wants to be a sanctuary city so if they pursue that then they will likely be funding their own state anyway so they may very well get their wish in one sense. We'll see how well the people of CA like protecting illegal aliens when they have to pony up the costs of doing so.
     
  9. lowendlinux Contributor

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    Yea she did and it's kinda funny
     
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    As long as they don't have to keep sending welfare to the red states they will probably be quite happy.
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    The electoral college makes it so it is that way almost all the time, usually it is Florida or Ohio that get to do the dictating.
     
  11. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Now a days getting under some under someone's skin is a qualification to being president.

    Remember when Texas wanted to leave the union a few years ago.
     
  12. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a

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    False.
     
  13. Zenithal macrumors 68040

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    A few years ago? Just about anytime really. I have no idea what Sceptical did to that other gentleman, but it's rather hilarious. I've butted heads with Sceptical at least a 100 times since the new year. It's a non-issue. But this is pure comedy.
     
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    In 2004 if Kerry had flipped either Ohio or Florida Bush would have been a one term president, same thing in 2000. Obama's wins were bigger, but if Florida and Ohio had gone the other way it wouldn't have taken much to change the outcome of those elections. If you need more evidence you can see that the candidates focus all their energy on a handful of swing states and ignore the majority of the country.
     
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    They haven't left??
     
  16. shyam09 macrumors 68000

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    Honestly, Post-Election Scribe seems completely different from Pre-Election Scribe.
     
  17. MacNut macrumors Core

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    And people complain that the left are snowflakes. :D
     
  18. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    Who in here is not different from how they were before Donald Trump was elected President?

    Trump's election was an indictment of not only the USA's political establishment but the critical thinking powers of the USA's electorate. That combination has arguably put the planet at more risk, and the country and its allies at a disadvantage, going forward. One expects some acknowledgment of continuity and stability in government when the country "changes horses". So far what we see of Trump's and the GOP's unholy alliance bodes neither. For Trump it's a power trip like none other this world offers. For the Republicans, an unparalleled opportunity to tip the country's federal "government" from oligarchy to pure kleptocracy: look at the cabinet picks so far.

    And for the media and the rest of us? Four years to try to spotlight (or, deny) what is already happening before this man Trump is even sworn into office. Trump is all about his sense of personal power. The government that will be sworn in to look after our interests is all about planning to gut everything they don't like about protections of ordinary people, using Trump's self-absorbed power to get them over. Yet Trump's supporters either deny this is happening or don't yet understand what's going on.

    So why would we not be different from how we were before this election? The whole world is different. The free traders are talking tariffs. The public schools chief wants to privatize the free public education that has been the hallmark of a free country's assurance that education will not be out of reach of the poor. The EPA chief see his role as dismantling a "rogue agency". The head of HUD a guy who already said he didn't think he was suited to run a government agency. The head of HHS, a guy ready to gut ACA and replace it with... nothing, but.. not for awhile, maybe, leaving insurance companies ready to quit right now. The Treasury chief, a hedge fund dude. The head of NSA, a military man whose main claim to fame afer retirement before Trump picked him up had been business intel for foreign clients (which he conveniently failed to disclose while writing op eds about our relationship with Turkey).

    I can hardly wait to see Donald Trump explain all this to supporters who thought he was going to drain the swamp. Something perhaps like "Well we have to have experts who recognize swamp creatures when they encounter them in the halls of government." Or maybe he'll just tweet: "Suckers! Live and learn!"

    I'm different since the election. I'm sorely annoyed at how much work it takes to accept the election of this completely unqualified guy to our highest office. Here he is being celebrated by an establishment out to use the powers of his office and then throw him aside like the worn-down razor blade in a boxcutter when they get done excising from government whatever currently impedes their rape and pillage of this country's resources. The rest of the nation watches in shock, glee, skepticism or ignorance, figuring it's not quite what was expected but there must be a plan for how it will work out better than what Hillary Clinton had in mind. To that I say, really?

    Count me as one who watches in shock. I'd have given the establishment a little more credit for nuance.
     
  19. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a

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    So the other states didn't matter. Nice try.
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    Losing does that.
     
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    So many things in this post that I disagree with that it's not even worth arguing all of them. So many people on the left know the inner workings of the President-Elects mind. It's just astonishing that they are all on the left.
     
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    It's like a parody or something.
     
  22. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    She's not a US citizen, although certainly that's not a requirement for anyone to find disconcerting the world we're in now, with Trump failing to show he's transitioning to anything remotely resembling "presidential" during this run-up to his assumption of office.

    It's the US that lost when Trump won. Not everyone's tuned into that yet. Sort of like how it was when GWBush took office in 2000. Except with GWB there was at least the veneer of a professional administration in place. Here we're at the mercy of the terrible trio, Priebus, Ryan and McConnell, egged on by Bannon and a whole host of other government haters. They have different agendas but they'll use the same cutting tool: Trump.

    So many people on the right need to forget about the tweetstorms of Mr. Trump and look at what he's doing in conjunction with the swamp creatures he had pledged to dismiss from government.

    What's a parody is the government this guy Trump is assembling under our noses.
     
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    I am watching what he is doing. Not everybody has a problem with his cabinet. For some reason I think people forget that while she has the popular vote, he still got over 60 million. And the left still hasn't learned anything. The way you all talk condemns any opinion that isn't your own. Worrying about the picture on the front of a bathroom is not a worry for everyone.
     
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    Oooh. I'm guessing, then, that you've also been fooled into thinking Trump has anything at all to do with the right?

    Gonna be interesting this next four years, as all those folks on the "right" start saying hey, why is Trump doing that? :) Trump does what is good for Trump, not what is good for right or left or even America as a whole.
     

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